Twilight, done the "Good Gay" type of way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOpyyrtzgBU&feature=player_embedded#!
Black dude: "That shit took me up!"
Pfft, twilights already for guys.
Plus those girls were somewhat ugly. Yes, generic hottie, but the faces were uber meh, especially the vamp.
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 01:55:26 PM
Pfft, twilights already for guys.
Twilight is like soccer. Everyone runs around for two hours. No one scores, and its billion fans insist you just don't understand.
THIS Twilight breaks that theory into pieces! No running, lots of scores, and NO ONE needs to question its forthcoming genius!
That black dude was hilarious. "DID YOU GUYS SEE TWILIGHT? YOU GOTTA SEE TWILIGHT"
lol cool.
Quote from: EpicPhailure on July 07, 2010, 03:34:29 PM
That black dude was hilarious. "DID YOU GUYS SEE TWILIGHT? YOU GOTTA SEE TWILIGHT"
I almost Rofl'd for real. I found that very funny for some reason.
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 01:55:26 PM
Pfft, twilights already for guys.
Plus those girls were somewhat ugly. Yes, generic hottie, but the faces were uber meh, especially the vamp.
The girls at 1:43 are !@#$ing sexy.
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 01:55:26 PM
Pfft, twilights already for guys.
Plus those girls were somewhat ugly. Yes, generic hottie, but the faces were uber meh, especially the vamp.
Honestly Seifer, if you don't think those chicks had it on...I would be really curious to see what kind of ass you have lined up for yourself.
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on July 07, 2010, 06:19:58 PM
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 01:55:26 PM
Pfft, twilights already for guys.
Plus those girls were somewhat ugly. Yes, generic hottie, but the faces were uber meh, especially the vamp.
Honestly Seifer, if you don't think those chicks had it on...I would be really curious to see what kind of ass you have lined up for yourself.
Your just blinded by girls with long legs, big boobs and lingerie. If those girls were actually dressed, and didn't have big tits, you would me like....meh, those faces are pretty meh.
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 06:59:23 PM
If those girls were actually dressed, and didn't have big tits, you would me like....meh,
But they aren't... And they don't... So what's your point in this?
http://flicksided.com/2010/07/man-dies-after-watching-twilight-eclipse/
Man Dies After Watching Twilight: Eclipse
:(
Quote from: Scotty on July 07, 2010, 07:38:10 PM
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 06:59:23 PM
If those girls were actually dressed, and didn't have big tits, you would me like....meh,
But they aren't... And they don't... So what's your point in this?
Not really that great of a face.
(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7969/mehh.png)
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 09:43:24 PM
Quote from: Scotty on July 07, 2010, 07:38:10 PM
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 06:59:23 PM
If those girls were actually dressed, and didn't have big tits, you would me like....meh,
But they aren't... And they don't... So what's your point in this?
Not really that great of a face.
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4301/whatreallymatters.png)
I don't know what face you're talking about.
If you find these women attractive you have low standards honestly, yuckkk.
Quote from: Lucifer on July 07, 2010, 10:21:35 PM
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 09:43:24 PM
Quote from: Scotty on July 07, 2010, 07:38:10 PM
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 06:59:23 PM
If those girls were actually dressed, and didn't have big tits, you would me like....meh,
But they aren't... And they don't... So what's your point in this?
Not really that great of a face.
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4301/whatreallymatters.png)
I don't know what face you're talking about.
So your just shallow.
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 09:43:24 PM
Quote from: Scotty on July 07, 2010, 07:38:10 PM
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 06:59:23 PM
If those girls were actually dressed, and didn't have big tits, you would me like....meh,
But they aren't... And they don't... So what's your point in this?
Not really that great of a face.
(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7969/mehh.png)
Her and Jackie are the only girls in the video with ugly faces and even then, they're workable. Also, their bodies are !@#$ing amazing.
Her and jackie is 2/3, is the majority. My point exactly.
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 10:45:53 PM
Her and jackie is 2/3, is the majority. My point exactly.
But damnnnnnnnnnnnn...doesn't this chick make up for that?
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4924/twilchick.png)
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on July 07, 2010, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 10:45:53 PM
Her and jackie is 2/3, is the majority. My point exactly.
But damnnnnnnnnnnnn...doesn't this chick make up for that?
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4924/twilchick.png)
Yeah, I thought her in 2 different scenes was 2 different girls. Her face is damn near perfect, minus her weird mustache-wringle thing.
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 10:31:16 PM
Quote from: Lucifer on July 07, 2010, 10:21:35 PM
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 09:43:24 PM
Quote from: Scotty on July 07, 2010, 07:38:10 PM
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 06:59:23 PM
If those girls were actually dressed, and didn't have big tits, you would me like....meh,
But they aren't... And they don't... So what's your point in this?
Not really that great of a face.
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4301/whatreallymatters.png)
I don't know what face you're talking about.
So your just shallow.
Shallow... And you're talking about the woman's face!?! What's the difference? Looks are looks! Besides, you can throw a brown paper bag over that face and you're right back to:
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4301/whatreallymatters.png)
And Luci, I just have to give ya a wicked high-five for that response! That was SPOT ON!
Meh, there's a lot of scoring in the 4th Twilight book. :P
>_>
<_<
Quote from: DarkTrinity on July 08, 2010, 12:57:06 AM
Meh, there's a lot of scoring in the 4th Twilight book. :P
>_>
<_<
Dam right!
Anyone who can get past the first couple hundred pages of the first book needs to find a change in literature.
Meh, I read all four books because I needed pages for my reading log in 6th grade. The story itself is okay. The only thing that detracts from it is the fanbase in my opinion.
Quote from: EpicPhailure on July 08, 2010, 12:30:35 PM
Meh, I read all four books because I needed pages for my reading log in 6th grade. The story itself is okay. The only thing that detracts from it is the fanbase in my opinion.
For real... I'm pretty sick of screaming, giggling Twihards.
"OMGZORZ, TAYLOR LAUTNER IZ RLY JACOB & ROBERT PATTENSON IZ RLY EDWARD. MUST MARRY THEM BOTH CUZ THEYRE SO HAWT AND DREAMY AND I'M IN LUV WITH THEM!!! WHY CANT ALL GUYS BE LYK THEM?!?!?! ILL KILL BELLA SO THEY'LL BOTH BE MIIINE!!!! *insert high pitched scream here*"
Quote from: Torch on July 07, 2010, 10:58:02 PM
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on July 07, 2010, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Seifer on July 07, 2010, 10:45:53 PM
Her and jackie is 2/3, is the majority. My point exactly.
But damnnnnnnnnnnnn...doesn't this chick make up for that?
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4924/twilchick.png)
Yeah, I thought her in 2 different scenes was 2 different girls. Her face is damn near perfect, minus her weird mustache-wringle thing.
If you say THAT is near perfect you havent seen german women. That girl doesnt attract me at all I am used to other standarts haha /jokeincaseofadickbeinglike'omgyounotnib'
Ontopic: If that is the new twilight movie I am SO gonna see it!
Would be a much bigger hit in my opinion. Only select (and unfortunate) women want to see Twilight as it is right now, I guarantee EVERY man and some (AWESOME ) women would want to see it if done this way!
Quote from: EpicPhailure on July 08, 2010, 12:30:35 PM
Meh, I read all four books because I needed pages for my reading log in 6th grade. The story itself is okay. The only thing that detracts from it is the fanbase in my opinion.
I have no idea what the books are like, but from what I've heard, the writing itself is awful.
I saw Eclipse last Saturday (was completely stoned and with a girl who wanted to see it) and the message of the movie from what I could tell was that girls can't think for themselves and shouldn't have sex (movie metaphor becoming a vampire) until marriage. I thought it was pretty funny.
Quote from: Torch on July 08, 2010, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: EpicPhailure on July 08, 2010, 12:30:35 PM
Meh, I read all four books because I needed pages for my reading log in 6th grade. The story itself is okay. The only thing that detracts from it is the fanbase in my opinion.
I have no idea what the books are like, but from what I've heard, the writing itself is awful.
I saw Eclipse last Saturday (was completely stoned and with a girl who wanted to see it) and the message of the movie from what I could tell was that girls can't think for themselves and shouldn't have sex (movie metaphor becoming a vampire) until marriage. I thought it was pretty funny.
That is probably because you were, uhhh.... stoned? dur hur.
And I wouldn't expect any guy to actually love the books, because it is a romance novel aimed at teenage girls. I have yet to meet a (straight)guy who likes romance novels.
Side note: this whole Team Edward/Team Jacob thing is stupid, because in the end Edward ultimately wins and Jacob (for the most part) loses, so being on "team Jacob" is like, auto fail... I guess I just don't get the point of the whole "team" thing especially when the people rooting for Jacob already read the 4th book and already know he loses. >_>
Another side note: For the people(probably 1 person) who has actually read the 4th book... I think the 4th movie will just be ridiculous and idk how they're going to make it into a movie...
!!!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!
a talking baby that grows bigger everyday? Sounded unrealistic in the book, I have a feeling gonna be outrageous in movie format...
Quote from: DarkTrinity on July 08, 2010, 08:00:51 PM
Quote from: Torch on July 08, 2010, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: EpicPhailure on July 08, 2010, 12:30:35 PM
Meh, I read all four books because I needed pages for my reading log in 6th grade. The story itself is okay. The only thing that detracts from it is the fanbase in my opinion.
I have no idea what the books are like, but from what I've heard, the writing itself is awful.
I saw Eclipse last Saturday (was completely stoned and with a girl who wanted to see it) and the message of the movie from what I could tell was that girls can't think for themselves and shouldn't have sex (movie metaphor becoming a vampire) until marriage. I thought it was pretty funny.
That is probably because you were, uhhh.... stoned? dur hur.
And I wouldn't expect any guy to actually love the books, because it is a romance novel aimed at teenage girls. I have yet to meet a (straight)guy who likes romance novels.
Side note: this whole Team Edward/Team Jacob thing is stupid, because in the end Edward ultimately wins and Jacob (for the most part) loses, so being on "team Jacob" is like, auto fail... I guess I just don't get the point of the whole "team" thing especially when the people rooting for Jacob already read the 4th book and already know he loses. >_>
Another side note: For the people(probably 1 person) who has actually read the 4th book... I think the 4th movie will just be ridiculous and idk how they're going to make it into a movie...
!!!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!
a talking baby that grows bigger everyday? Sounded unrealistic in the book, I have a feeling gonna be outrageous in movie format...
I for one, think that it's funny how Scholastic Books won't support it because of the sex or maybe the pregnancy, so they release Eclipse every year at the bookfair.
Would that one person you refer to be me? I wouldn't say I "Like" romance novels, but the twilight series was good. The story was great, and I did enjoy the romance. Most romance novels are lame, just like most romance movies are lame. But most romance movies are also blown out of proportion by hollywood. I love Indie romances, they are probably my favorite genre.
Anyway, I concur with you in the sense that the 4th movie will be hella !@#$ed up. Unfortunatly, it's being split into two movies, which means we have to wait double long for all that crazy stuff. I'm actually more confused how they will show the whole birth scene...
Quote from: Seifer on July 08, 2010, 08:28:10 PM
Would that one person you refer to be me? I wouldn't say I "Like" romance novels, but the twilight series was good. The story was great, and I did enjoy the romance. Most romance novels are lame, just like most romance movies are lame. But most romance movies are also blown out of proportion by hollywood. I love Indie romances, they are probably my favorite genre.
Anyway, I concur with you in the sense that the 4th movie will be hella !@#$ed up. Unfortunatly, it's being split into two movies, which means we have to wait double long for all that crazy stuff. I'm actually more confused how they will show the whole birth scene...
For reals. But, they might do the same as the last Harry Potter movie and release them 6 months apart instead of a year. But my guess is the prego will be in the first half and turn vamp at the end of the first half. (maybe?) lol. Guess we just gotta wait to see >_>
I guess I don't really know what to expect from the fourth movie(s)... Gonna be some crazy shit, that's all I know xP
If you're male and you like Twilight, you're gay. I don't mean that in the derogatory sense, I mean it in the "you want to put your testicles against another man's testicles while gripping handfuls of chesthair" kind of way.
It appeals to 13 year old girls, or girls who still think like a 13 year old. The story is a complete failure, and is targeted at insecure women who don't fit in, by making Bella as broad-scoped as possible, thus making it an easy replacement for any woman who shares the same "I don't fit in" feelings that everyone who went through puberty has experienced. It's shallow, immature, and a great example of how we as humans (specifically immature girls and gay guys) are dependent, insecure, and want a man who is everything a man should be... x1,000. FAIL!
Quote from: Scotty on July 08, 2010, 11:17:33 PM
If you're male and you like Twilight, you're gay. I don't mean that in the derogatory sense, I mean it in the "you want to put your testicles against another man's testicles while gripping handfuls of chesthair" kind of way.
It appeals to 13 year old girls, or girls who still think like a 13 year old. The story is a complete failure, and is targeted at insecure women who don't fit in, by making Bella as broad-scoped as possible, thus making it an easy replacement for any woman who shares the same "I don't fit in" feelings that everyone who went through puberty has experienced. It's shallow, immature, and a great example of how we as humans (specifically immature girls and gay guys) are dependent, insecure, and want a man who is everything a man should be... x1,000. FAIL!
You can't argue that it isn't a profitable strategy. I have nothing but respect for a director that know how to profit from his occupation.
Wait, are you saying I'm gay Scotty? And not in the derogatory sense, but in the I want to put my testicles against another mans testicles while gripping fistfuls of chest hair sort of way. Because I have various conquests to prove otherwise good sir.
Quote from: Seifer on July 08, 2010, 11:38:43 PM
Wait, are you saying I'm gay Scotty? And not in the derogatory sense, but in the I want to put my testicles against another mans testicles while gripping fistfuls of chest hair sort of way. Because I have various conquests to prove otherwise good sir.
So says every other man who hasn't come out, yet is still gay... Good sir.
EDIT: Case in point: Jake.
EDIT #2: To clarify why men are gay to enjoy Twilight, here we go. My old gf suckered me into giving the first book a go, and I only got to a couple hundred pages before I just couldn't take it anymore. The books manage to portray the life of an empty shell. It's some girl who is insecure, doesn't fit in, and has social inadequacies in High School. They don't at all describe her appearance, what she looks like, nothing. They essentially made a template of a woman that other girls who have felt the same way at some point (aka puberty, hence the attraction to younger women) can easily see themselves as this template girl.
Then she eventually goes on to meet what women consider to be ultimate guy. By ultimate, I mean take a picture perfect guy who is described (in the book) as having enormous pecs, beautiful hair, and even has good breath (yeah, it's in the book, I'm not joking), then multiply that by 1000 and you have Ed. Ed is the kind of idiot vampire who is centuries old, supposedly hot as all Hell, mysterious, and then wastes his time on some social low-life in high school (Seriously, he's this good looking and he goes for a woman with the social skills of a toad!?!), and he puts up with her crap by listening to her bitching and complaints all the time. He seemingly loves nothing more than to listen to an average template shmoe of a woman's gripes for hours on end. Me, I'd kill a bitch if she insisted that I listen to her talk this much.
So that begs the question, what does a guy see in the books? Does a guy fit himself into the book as this girl, vying for the attention of a hot guy? I doubt that if in the first couple hundred pages of the first book, they don't at all describe template girl's physical appearance, they sure as Hell aren't going to divulge it in later on (in that book or any of the others), so clearly, any man who gets attached to the story and the books has to be trying to place himself in template girl's shoes and thrives off of a hot man giving him attention, hence why you, good sir, are gay!
While your little story made me chuckle, I just enjoyed the book for the story, not just because I can relate to it or some crap.
That's the thing... What's to enjoy when the story is revolving around a well described hot dude?
Says the guy who read the first 100 pages. Most series first 100 pages are rather bland, it's all just back story and buildup.
Back-story and buildup? What were they building up for then? Clearly they got past the not describing the girl point (I think I managed about 400, hard to recall), and made damn well sure you understood that Ed was a hunk, where are they to go from there? Hunk goes and gets sweaty, template girl gets a she-boner the size of a kodiak bear that ate my 'roids, template girl and guy have hard times because hunk number two shows up, template girl evolves to have two she-males popping the zipper on her pants, and can't decide which hawt slab of meat is best, ultimately ending in template girl sexxing one of the two in a graphic way that can't be made into a PG-13 movie? Remind me again of what kind of !@#$ing story can save a book about insecurity, immaturity, and manage to not attract to anything other than the gayest of gay men? I say gayest of gay, because after my camping trip in Missouri, even our resident gay dude wore a shirt that read "... and Buffy killed Edward, the end!" So where does that put you?
That's impossible to follow up. I can't dispute your logic when you start talking about girls with she-boners. Needless to say, I read it, I enjoyed it. I'm not some fanboy, but I liked it. Nuff Said. If I'm gay, so be it. But for now, I'll still chase girls because that's what gets me off.
Quote from: Seifer on July 09, 2010, 02:04:03 AM
That's impossible to follow up. I can't dispute your logic when you start talking about girls with she-boners.
Sure you can. You're hiding behind a veil of literal interpretations as a cover up to avoid further confrontation in a lost argument, knowing me well enough, to know full well that my analogies are a figurative act to colorfully illustrate my point. So here, I'll revise my above statement to not allow you, what you perceive to be, and easy out from this.
Where is the story to go after 400 pages of buildup and back story? There is little to no back story with template girl. But there sure as Hell is with Ed and Jakey. You have no perception of where this girl is coming from, what she looks like, nothing, but you know everything there is to know about the two dudes. The only presumable plot that could ensue after such a juvenile attempt at back story and buildup is on par with the standard and expected high-school locker gossip. You know, the "Hey! Did you hear about so and so, he's such a hunk... Nah, I'm into hunk #2, he's sooooo dreamy!! I just can't make up my mind!". Where apparently by the Fourth book (i.e. 12th grade, fourth year, how coincidental), the two finally get it on, concluding on the series (according to what I've read in this topic). I must just be one who grew out of that phase 7 years ago, not desiring to hear kids running around say "Guess who kissed who!" as that age group is genuinely what the books are aimed towards. I honestly can say I think I'd get more satisfaction and thrill out of watching some school-girl porn flick.
Well I never thought the first book discussion topic on stick online forums was going to be Twilight.
Quote from: ARTgames on July 09, 2010, 09:57:13 AM
Well I never thought the first book discussion topic on stick online forums was going to be Twilight.
Seifer's fault, not mine!
Oh
My
!@#$ing
God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHkPJ1ACLrg
Win. Total Win.
Quote from: Scotty on July 09, 2010, 11:37:44 AM
Oh
My
!@#$ing
God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHkPJ1ACLrg
Win. Total Win.
I rofld!
I will say that the 3rd movie/book is the best out of the 4 books/3 movies. That's mainly when all the action starts. And the 2nd book/movie is my least favorite of all of them.
Though the 3rd book is better than the movie, because Kristen Stewart is still in the need of acting lessons and Robert Pattenson constantly looks like he's in pain and Taylor Lautner's voice just annoys the hell out of me(but he is good eye candy, if only he had no speaking parts). :3
I guess it just feels like the movies hype up the romance part of the story, where in the books it feels like it's half action & half romance... or maybe it's just me. lol.
My boyfriend has never read the books, but he likes the movies, but mainly for the fight scenes. I actually know a lot of guys who enjoy the twilight movies. (only one of them being gay.) lol.
Quote from: ARTgames on July 09, 2010, 09:57:13 AM
Well I never thought the first book discussion topic on stick online forums was going to be Twilight.
Not true. There was a whole thread on all different kinds of books.... Though, was that on the hangout forum? I can't remember.
Quote from: Seifer on July 09, 2010, 12:40:04 AM
Says the guy who read the first 100 pages. Most series first 100 pages are rather bland, it's all just back story and buildup.
You are reading the wrong books. What you say is just not true. Any book you read should be interesting THROUGHOUT. If it isn't, they're doing it wrong. Books need to be interesting from the very beginning or they don't sell...
With that said, I'm not sure I believe what you say about this book. Obviously this series has sold to a massive audience. There's no way it was written with the first 100 pages being bland and boring and millions of people were still interested in it. The majority of the public does not have the attention span to deal with that kind of thing. Hell, the agent wouldn't have even picked the author up if that were the case. That's just how the publishing industry works.
And, just so it looks like I don't support any side of this:
Quote from: Scotty on July 08, 2010, 11:47:54 PM
So that begs the question, what does a guy see in the books? Does a guy fit himself into the book as this girl, vying for the attention of a hot guy?
What makes you think a reader needs to see themselves as one of the characters in a book? If what I'm reading is interesting, I don't need to identify with the character necessarily. They could be completely opposite from my personality as long as they are an interesting character to read about.
Not that I'm claiming the character was interesting (or not interesting for that matter)... I haven't read the book.
Quote from: Lingus on July 09, 2010, 02:57:02 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on July 09, 2010, 09:57:13 AM
Well I never thought the first book discussion topic on stick online forums was going to be Twilight.
Not true. There was a whole thread on all different kinds of books.... Though, was that on the hangout forum? I can't remember.
On the official forums no. Unless you can link to one. On hangout maybe, there were long times I never when.
Quote from: Lingus on July 09, 2010, 02:57:02 PM
What makes you think a reader needs to see themselves as one of the characters in a book? If what I'm reading is interesting, I don't need to identify with the character necessarily. They could be completely opposite from my personality as long as they are an interesting character to read about.
Not that I'm claiming the character was interesting (or not interesting for that matter)... I haven't read the book.
I'm not saying a reader
needs to relate themselves to the character. I'm saying that the author did a fantastic job of facilitating the possibility, therefor leaving others easily susceptible to doing so (it's rather obvious even, black and white when you review the amount of detail explained between Ed and template girl). Now pair that thought with my previous post regarding high school girly giggly gossip, and answer me this, if you don't (which I'm sure you won't) find that kind of crap interesting, does that mean you might relate yourself (read the italics in the quote)?
Quote from: Scotty on July 09, 2010, 03:46:23 PM
Quote from: Lingus on July 09, 2010, 02:57:02 PM
What makes you think a reader needs to see themselves as one of the characters in a book? If what I'm reading is interesting, I don't need to identify with the character necessarily. They could be completely opposite from my personality as long as they are an interesting character to read about.
Not that I'm claiming the character was interesting (or not interesting for that matter)... I haven't read the book.
I'm not saying a reader needs to relate themselves to the character. I'm saying that the author did a fantastic job of facilitating the possibility, therefor leaving others easily susceptible to doing so (it's rather obvious even, black and white when you review the amount of detail explained between Ed and template girl). Now pair that thought with my previous post regarding high school girly giggly gossip, and answer me this, if you don't (which I'm sure you won't) find that kind of crap interesting, does that mean you might relate yourself (read the italics in the quote)?
It's hard for me to respond accurately given that I haven't read the book... but I will say this: If I don't find the characters or story or premise or something about the book interesting, I don't care how relatable the characters are. I don't want to read a boring story about a boring person doing boring things JUST because they're "just like me." In contrast, it helps sometimes to be able to relate to the main character... but it still has to be interesting.
Again, not saying any of this relates to Twilight since I haven't read it. This is just a generalization about reading books (or enjoying any medium of entertainment be it book, television, film, interpretive dance...)
Quote from: Lingus on July 09, 2010, 02:57:02 PM
Quote from: Seifer on July 09, 2010, 12:40:04 AM
Says the guy who read the first 100 pages. Most series first 100 pages are rather bland, it's all just back story and buildup.
You are reading the wrong books. What you say is just not true. Any book you read should be interesting THROUGHOUT. If it isn't, they're doing it wrong. Books need to be interesting from the very beginning or they don't sell...
With that said, I'm not sure I believe what you say about this book. Obviously this series has sold to a massive audience. There's no way it was written with the first 100 pages being bland and boring and millions of people were still interested in it. The majority of the public does not have the attention span to deal with that kind of thing. Hell, the agent wouldn't have even picked the author up if that were the case. That's just how the publishing industry works.
Basically the first part of the book is Bella moving to Washington, describing Edward & his family, & Bella then trying to figure out why him and his family are so different. Basically it's bland compared to the rest of the book & series where vampires are trying to kill Bella, wolves are trying to kill the vampires and the High & mighty group of vampires(Volturi) wants to kill them both, and then ultimately has a half vampire, half human child kill her while ripping itself out of her stomach. Yes, I would consider the first part of the first book to be bland compared to that. The climax (in every book I've read) is in the middle of the book. It's not that it's just bland, it's bland comparatively.
Also, Stephanie Meyer has made so much money off these books, so obviously she's doing something right.... And, she has written 2 other books (a short one about the story of a vampire in the 3rd movie) and a book completely unrelated to the series (The Host), which I also found to be a good read.
Well, I see what you're saying, but really it doesn't matter "in comparison." It only matters that it is interesting in itself. Especially because you're comparing it to something that the reader, on first read through, would not be comparing it to not having read the portion you are comparing to. So it's likely that it has some interest... just maybe not the vampires killing each other and/or having sex with each other kind of interest. But, certain kinds of interest are subjective so it may not be a draw for certain types of people.
And still, I have to take another stand on this:
Quote from: DarkTrinity on July 09, 2010, 07:54:27 PM
Also, Stephanie Meyer has made so much money off these books, so obviously she's doing something right.... And, she has written 2 other books (a short one about the story of a vampire in the 3rd movie) and a book completely unrelated to the series (The Host), which I also found to be a good read.
Yes, I agree, and I have heard this said before. She has obviously done something right. Just like the author of the Harry Potter series has obviously done something right. What they've done is managed to write something that appeals to a mass market, and positioned themselves and their product such that it reaches the largest fan base that it could possibly reach. And that says something about their ability to read the market... and possibly something about their creativity and/or ability to write. But not necessarily so. It doesn't take a great book to be a best seller. It takes a great agent.
That said, a bestseller could also be very good work. It could even be extremely good literature that stands with other classics... But the majority of the time this is not the case. And often times bestsellers are really not that good in terms of literary quality. In any case, my point is that popularity does not automatically mean quality.
I'm not saying it's high quality, it's aimed at teenage girls after all and what do they know?
I'm just saying a majority of people enjoy reading the series. And also The Host is supposed to be aimed towards a more mature audience (and I've notice it's nowhere near as popular as the Twilight series, lol)
I'm pretty sure SOMEONE on this forum had to have read this. I read it a few months ago, but I managed to find it again.
http://theoatmeal.com/story/twilight
This backs up Scotty. And puts twilight to shame. Thank the Lord my gf doesn't like Twilight
Quote from: DeamonClawz on July 10, 2010, 12:12:01 AM
I'm pretty sure SOMEONE on this forum had to have read this. I read it a few months ago, but I managed to find it again.
http://theoatmeal.com/story/twilight
This backs up Scotty. And puts twilight to shame. Thank the Lord my gf doesn't like Twilight
LOL thanks. Now I know where Scotty got his argument from, since he basically copied it word for word. And once again, this guy didn't read the full book either.
Brilliant minds think alike!