This tournament is a dedication to the Pre-Donor S.O. Back in the day when a GS and a Skully Mask was the best thing you could have. A lot don't remember how that was, so I want a tournament that brings it back, especially since now anyone with a DH and an IS is the winner. For those that join this tournament, here's a glimpse of old fashioned SO, way back to the Chaos Tournies. So, no Donor-S.O. Stuff, we're doing this retro style.
Date - February 27th. Saturday 5pm GMT.
How to Enter: Leave Character Name/Level
Rules;
** The items below are prohibited for use in the tournament.
* Inferno Sword
* Froggy Hat
* Dragoon Helmet
* Slasher
* Fedora
* Green Beret
* Sand Sword
* Bandit Cover
* Spire Dagger
* Dark Knight Helm
* Easter Egg Hat
* Deranged Bunny Ears
* Stone Hammer
* Great Sword
The main platform in arena is the one that will be used in the matches, jumping onto the left/right upper platforms results in disqualification.
Knock-outs apply. Matches will be best out of 3.
*Notes; Co-Hosted by Danimal. Hosted by DeamonClawz.
Taking suggestions for tournament times. Participants will be paired at random. GM's are welcome to provide Anti-noob security. CROWNS can be used!
Participants;
Maple - L99
FapFapFapFap - Estimated level 99.
Swordmaster - L57
I know I forgot something, so feel free to make me look retarded.
I'll join
Maple:99
Plus no crowns?
I KNEW I forgot something. Thanks.
Quote from: DeamonClawz on February 06, 2010, 01:47:54 PM
CROWNS can be used!
Well, my crown is pretty much a Green beret in disguise, so I don't think I'm gonna use it.
Quote from: DeamonClawz on February 06, 2010, 01:47:54 PM
Rules;
** The items below are prohibited for use in the tournament.
* Inferno Sword
* Dragoon Helmet
Correct me if I'm wrong, but both of these items were in the game well before the normal server went down.
But the point is to draw out the skill in everyone, and those items were EXTREMELY rare before it went Donor SO. I'm an item whore, but I like when the matches are balanced. If you give people weaker weapons, its more of a challenge, and it's much more fair.
Well, that "balancing" can work both ways. "Ol' School" tournaments consisted of battles between vit, as everyone had the same weapons, and none of them were as effective at taking down tanks as the current items. Plus, back then Int was even less neccesary, as there were no weapons that could actually suck your mana dry in one battle. I wouldn't say this is "drawing out the skill." Skill, in my opinion, is being able to adapt to any weapon or hat your opponent pulls out of his ass. Besides, an Actual "Ol' School"/"Retro" tournament would be eliminating all items added after the Desert update, including the public appearance of the Great Sword.
But it's your tournament, feel free to run it however you like.
Quote from: Lucifer on February 06, 2010, 02:42:57 PM
Well, that "balancing" can work both ways. "Ol' School" tournaments consisted of battles between vit, as everyone had the same weapons, and none of them were as effective at taking down tanks as the current items. Plus, back then Int was even less neccesary, as there were no weapons that could actually suck your mana dry in one battle. I wouldn't say this is "drawing out the skill." Skill, in my opinion, is being able to adapt to any weapon or hat your opponent pulls out of his ass. Besides, an Actual "Ol' School"/"Retro" tournament would be eliminating all items added after the Desert update, including the public appearance of the Great Sword.
But it's your tournament, feel free to run it however you like.
Sounds like fun, but I agree with Luci, maybe take out the gs as well? Just a suggestion.. I will join. stick_d00d 99 maybe 100..
Quote from: Lucifer on February 06, 2010, 02:42:57 PM
Well, that "balancing" can work both ways. "Ol' School" tournaments consisted of battles between vit, as everyone had the same weapons, and none of them were as effective at taking down tanks as the current items. Plus, back then Int was even less neccesary, as there were no weapons that could actually suck your mana dry in one battle. I wouldn't say this is "drawing out the skill." Skill, in my opinion, is being able to adapt to any weapon or hat your opponent pulls out of his ass. Besides, an Actual "Ol' School"/"Retro" tournament would be eliminating all items added after the Desert update, including the public appearance of the Great Sword.
But it's your tournament, feel free to run it however you like.
Come on... Your getting too technical with it. You know you understand the jest of the tournament, no need to over complicate things.
Quote from: NotoriousM4^ on February 06, 2010, 03:05:38 PM
Come on... Your getting too technical with it. You know you understand the jest of the tournament, no need to over complicate things.
Hence why I clearly stated it's his tournament, and he can run it however he pleases. I was just commenting on Daemon's view of, with the new item additions, there is a sufficient lack of skill involved. I don't believe that's true. Rare items no doubt give people an advantage, but they also provide weaknesses. It's up to each individual player, in the heat of the battle, to recognize these weaknesses and take advantage of them. This, to me, is what "skill" is. I'm not trying to "over complicate things", I didn't even suggest any changes be made.
you should take gs and katana out to make pro ss and hammer fights
I was waiting for someone to make this. But I recommend items before the desert update, excluding GS. Now that would be beast.
Quote from: DeamonClawz on February 06, 2010, 01:47:54 PM
Rules;
** The items below are prohibited for use in the tournament.
* Inferno Sword
* Dragoon Helmet
* Slasher
* Fedora
* Green Beret
* Sand Sword
* Bandit Cover
* Spire Dagger
* Dark Knight Helm
* Easter Egg Hat
* Deranged Bunny Ears
* Stone Hammer
A couple things to say...
1) You forgot to add the Froggy hat to the list.
2) Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the GS, DH, and IS all come out in the same update? Except the GS was really rare, DH even more rare, and IS so rare no one got it until Meiun lowered the drop rate.
3) Also keep in mind people, if you were to exclude the GS and do pre-desert, the Skele Mask, Pirate Hat, Wizard Hat, Scythe, Katana, and possibly a few others would be out. That seems cool to me, but just saying.
Nevertheless, it seems cool and I would like to join.
FapFapFapFap: probably will be 99 by then.
I'll join iam lvl 57
But didn't bbb drop gs at one point?
gs came before desert I think.
Crozier- 99/100 at time of event.
BBB dropping GS was a rumor, because at the time, it was the strongest monster in the game.
Quote from: crozier on February 06, 2010, 05:07:40 PM
But didn't bbb drop gs at one point?
gs came before desert I think.
Crozier- 99/100 at time of event.
The GS was a mod weapon before the desert, and was only given to a select few as compensation for their accounts being deleted in a server accident, I believe. And the bbb dropping a GS I believe was a myth started by Krele.
Quote from: Petro on February 06, 2010, 05:23:14 PM
Quote from: crozier on February 06, 2010, 05:07:40 PM
But didn't bbb drop gs at one point?
gs came before desert I think.
Crozier- 99/100 at time of event.
The GS was a mod weapon before the desert, and was only given to a select few as compensation for their accounts being deleted in a server accident, I believe. And the bbb dropping a GS I believe was a myth started by Krele.
Nice one Krele!
Quote from: crozier on February 06, 2010, 05:07:40 PM
But didn't bbb drop gs at one point?
gs came before desert I think.
Crozier- 99/100 at time of event.
All we know is that the GS
was available before the desert, however it was so rare that in 1 year only one person got it, that was Krele but he got an error and couldn't pick it up, there was controversy whether it actually happened but Meiun gave him a GS.
If you all want to, then screw the GS. It's not like I'm competing. :D
But GS was added before IS, Pedro.
Anyways, list up, hoes.
Tyco-RC.
Level 98.
Level 99 for tourny.
:P
Quote from: Matty_Richo on February 06, 2010, 05:30:43 PM
Quote from: crozier on February 06, 2010, 05:07:40 PM
But didn't bbb drop gs at one point?
gs came before desert I think.
Crozier- 99/100 at time of event.
All we know is that the GS was available before the desert, however it was so rare that in 1 year only one person got it, that was Krele but he got an error and couldn't pick it up, there was controversy whether it actually happened but Meiun gave him a GS.
I always believed that as a myth before Krele was actually given it. Would be nice if Meiun could confirm this xD.
Quote from: DeamonClawz on February 06, 2010, 06:31:08 PM
If you all want to, then screw the GS. It's not like I'm competing. :D
But GS was added before IS, Pedro.
Anyways, list up, hoes.
Personally, I would like pre-desert minus the gs. So like hammer, bandit mask, knight helm, SS..etc...
Quote from: Petro on February 06, 2010, 07:42:23 PM
Quote from: DeamonClawz on February 06, 2010, 06:31:08 PM
If you all want to, then screw the GS. It's not like I'm competing. :D
But GS was added before IS, Pedro.
Anyways, list up, hoes.
Personally, I would like pre-desert minus the gs. So like hammer, bandit mask, knight helm, SS..etc...
Ol school tourny should just be GS and knight helm >_>...thats how it was in chaos tournys
Quote from: Forum on February 06, 2010, 07:50:53 PM
Quote from: Petro on February 06, 2010, 07:42:23 PM
Quote from: DeamonClawz on February 06, 2010, 06:31:08 PM
If you all want to, then screw the GS. It's not like I'm competing. :D
But GS was added before IS, Pedro.
Anyways, list up, hoes.
Personally, I would like pre-desert minus the gs. So like hammer, bandit mask, knight helm, SS..etc...
Ol school tourny should just be GS and knight helm >_>...thats how it was in chaos tournys
Actually, no. The one Luda one was knight helms/hammer/ss/bandit mask...the one that st3k one had like 5 people with gs's and the rest hammer/ss. The one that Dipz one was IS/GS/DH/skele...the one that specialboy one was IS/GS/DH/skele..the ones before those were fists...so you make no sense. Ol'School SO2 would be usually be considered, by me at least, hammers, knight helms, short swords, bandit masks.
Quote from: Petro on February 06, 2010, 08:00:09 PM
Quote from: Forum on February 06, 2010, 07:50:53 PM
Quote from: Petro on February 06, 2010, 07:42:23 PM
Quote from: DeamonClawz on February 06, 2010, 06:31:08 PM
If you all want to, then screw the GS. It's not like I'm competing. :D
But GS was added before IS, Pedro.
Anyways, list up, hoes.
Personally, I would like pre-desert minus the gs. So like hammer, bandit mask, knight helm, SS..etc...
Ol school tourny should just be GS and knight helm >_>...thats how it was in chaos tournys
Actually, no. The one Luda one was knight helms/hammer/ss/bandit mask...the one that st3k one had like 5 people with gs's and the rest hammer/ss. The one that Dipz one was IS/GS/DH/skele...the one that specialboy one was IS/GS/DH/skele..the ones before those were fists...so you make no sense. Ol'School SO2 would be usually be considered, by me at least, hammers, knight helms, short swords, bandit masks.
Ahh k i still think it should be knight helm,bandit mask,ninja,ss,gs maybe hammers though o.o
The concept of pre-desert SO2 is nice but I'd much rather see hatless punchouts. I don't think we ever had an SO1 style tourny after it died.
The BBB DID drop GS before the tree branch was added.
yeah gs was there before the desert. BUT there would be no point in allowing it, since everyone would use it then.
I say prohibit ALL desert items, desert is new school! prohibit skele masks, pirates, wizards and top hats and scythes aswell!
btw i'm in. So-Crappy / 100
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Level 99
Let me confirm, that the BBB did indeed drop the GS way back when. It was just like, a 1 in 1,000,000 chance. I don't believe anyone ever actually found one off it.
No, I'm not exaggerating.
I'd like to go pre-desert old old school. Hambone4097 99
Sorry guys, I think DC has bailed on this idea. :-\
Quote from: Chaos on February 22, 2010, 06:43:14 PM
Let me confirm, that the BBB did indeed drop the GS way back when. It was just like, a 1 in 1,000,000 chance. I don't believe anyone ever actually found one off it.
No, I'm not exaggerating.
Krele found it from a BBB, then got disconnected before he collected it. Upon review of the screenshot that krele took, Meiun decided it was legit and gave him a GS.
Quote from: Torch on February 22, 2010, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: Chaos on February 22, 2010, 06:43:14 PM
Let me confirm, that the BBB did indeed drop the GS way back when. It was just like, a 1 in 1,000,000 chance. I don't believe anyone ever actually found one off it.
No, I'm not exaggerating.
Krele found it from a BBB, then got disconnected before he collected it. Upon review of the screenshot that krele took, Meiun decided it was legit and gave him a GS.
That was the story at the time, yes. There was a lot of debate later on whether that actually happened, however.
king22522/lvl 78
wat prize do u get?
wat time would it be in central time?
slam-kia/lvl 100
he wasnted to sign up i told him i will so i did ok thx for all the help and when u can get to my questions about prize and wat time it would start in central time thx for all the help
Quote from: Danimal on February 22, 2010, 07:09:36 PM
Sorry guys, I think DC has bailed on this idea. :-\
^^
I'll come, if he didn't bail...
+(-_lll)+ 99
Will there be an account prize?
If its still on.
Count me in , Bloodseeker lvl 40 , probably 43 till there :P
ill join with DeamoN - level 99
frog hat and whip can be used ?
remember the knight helm and the gs lol
i leave the tournament
both frog and froggy would have to be taken out, if its old school, and whip is old school... been around since it started in so2 i believe
I don't really have the time to host this, nor are the people interested enough, so I won't be tenacious and carry it out as "planned". If anyone wishes to use the idea and host their own tournament, feel free.