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Nintendo's got Dignity

Started by Meiun, September 14, 2011, 09:26:19 PM

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Meiun

Quote from: ARTgames on September 14, 2011, 11:43:22 PM
Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief, Master Chief.

I think he is at least.  :' (

Ok, maybe not to par with Mario. But to be honest I would love if Steve could get there. wow im off topic..
His name is Steve? o_O. I rest my case in that fact alone...

ARTgames

Oh no, this is Steve:


Master Chief name is much worse than Steve. Its John. :P

Meiun

Quote from: ARTgames on September 14, 2011, 11:54:50 PM
Oh no, this is Steve:


Master Chief name is much worse than Steve. Its John. :P
Ah ok. Yes, I'd agree that Steve would make a better iconic character than master chief though :P

T-Rok

Quote from: Prosper on September 14, 2011, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: stick d00d on September 14, 2011, 11:16:40 PM
Motion control wasn't anything new. Remember the Playstation Eye(just an example)? That was well before the Wii. They just brought the concept into the new generation of consoles and adapted it. (not saying they didn't do well, and yea I know there was other motion gaming just the Eye came to mind when I typed this) There downfall could only come from there console being left behind in the competition(which I really don't see happening).

The Duck Hunt Gun started it all. Nintendo wins !

This wins it all.

Scotty

Quote from: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/09/gaming-everything-is-amazing-and-no-one-is-happy.arsI once made a joke on Twitter that if you only paid attention to the comments on gaming news stories, you would think every pre-order has been cancelled, every game is a rip-off, and every major publisher is being boycotted by everyone. When a publisher makes a little bit of money, that's it for them; it's selfish to continue to turn a profit. If a company does anything to try to stem the flow of piracy, they are screamed at by people who will allow no form of DRM, not even Steam, to touch their systems. And legions of people seem to scour news stories for any excuse to justify their piracy.

Reality aside, Nintendo needs a boost.  They're great for coming up with innovative technologies, but other companies are quick to take Nintendo's pioneering, mimic, and maybe even perfect.  Who then cares about Nintendo.  Their share value is the lowest it's been since mid-2006 (the Wii came out in November of '06).  At their height, when the Wii was impossible to find on shelves, their value was 6x what it is right now (over 70k JPY, or $914 a freakin' share versus the $155 today).  When they innovate, it pays, after they've completed innovation, they plummet.  Heck, Google right now is at %538 a share, Apple is at $391, and Amazon is at $222.  $914 back in 2006 was ridiculous, and is even more ridiculous today.

If you invested thousands into a company that could frankly have made you stupid rich then to have it plummet, wouldn't you try to "encourage" them to help get them to earn your money back?  Back in 2003, at one of their lowest (as a best case scenario for the investor), say you dropped $10,000 in shares on Nintendo, not accounting for inflation, at their peak, you would have made ~$75k profit.  If you were stupid enough to have held on and not sold at the moment you saw a drop, you would have lost ~$60 and only wound up today with ~$4k profit.  Still a small profit, but that is a best case scenario.  Anytime past 2005 and you would have lost money (which is the more likely considering people probably bought right around before the Wii's release).  I'd be screaming at them to come up with anything if I were them.  They proved that they can make an Imperial shit-ton of money, and I would have been stupid to not sell the moment it plummeted...  Naturally I'm going to want them to get back up there so I make my money back!

Prosper

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For your shares to sell, people needs to buy them from you, I doubt many people would have start buying nintendo shares when it stopped started dropping.

Meiun

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Quote from: Scotty on September 15, 2011, 10:59:25 AM
Quote from: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/09/gaming-everything-is-amazing-and-no-one-is-happy.arsI once made a joke on Twitter that if you only paid attention to the comments on gaming news stories, you would think every pre-order has been cancelled, every game is a rip-off, and every major publisher is being boycotted by everyone. When a publisher makes a little bit of money, that's it for them; it's selfish to continue to turn a profit. If a company does anything to try to stem the flow of piracy, they are screamed at by people who will allow no form of DRM, not even Steam, to touch their systems. And legions of people seem to scour news stories for any excuse to justify their piracy.

Reality aside, Nintendo needs a boost.  They're great for coming up with innovative technologies, but other companies are quick to take Nintendo's pioneering, mimic, and maybe even perfect.  Who then cares about Nintendo.  Their share value is the lowest it's been since mid-2006 (the Wii came out in November of '06).  At their height, when the Wii was impossible to find on shelves, their value was 6x what it is right now (over 70k JPY, or $914 a freakin' share versus the $155 today).  When they innovate, it pays, after they've completed innovation, they plummet.  Heck, Google right now is at %538 a share, Apple is at $391, and Amazon is at $222.  $914 back in 2006 was ridiculous, and is even more ridiculous today.

If you invested thousands into a company that could frankly have made you stupid rich then to have it plummet, wouldn't you try to "encourage" them to help get them to earn your money back?  Back in 2003, at one of their lowest (as a best case scenario for the investor), say you dropped $10,000 in shares on Nintendo, not accounting for inflation, at their peak, you would have made ~$75k profit.  If you were stupid enough to have held on and not sold at the moment you saw a drop, you would have lost ~$60 and only wound up today with ~$4k profit.  Still a small profit, but that is a best case scenario.  Anytime past 2005 and you would have lost money (which is the more likely considering people probably bought right around before the Wii's release).  I'd be screaming at them to come up with anything if I were them.  They proved that they can make an Imperial shit-ton of money, and I would have been stupid to not sell the moment it plummeted...  Naturally I'm going to want them to get back up there so I make my money back!
Oh you definitely have a very valid point, I won't argue that. Nintendo definitely has some obstacles to overcome right now, many of which are largely self inflicted. I also don't blame their investors for yelling at them or trying to push them. But especially for a company like Nintendo, that has done their own thing since the dawn of video games, I think I'd rather see them go down in flames for trying to stay true to themselves and their fans then to just sell out in order to please the shareholders.

EDIT: Oh, and by the way, Nintendo isn't the only big name company that refuses to jump on the mobile-game bandwagon. Valve, the creators of Half-Life, Portal, Counter Strike, Team Fortress (and the game distribution system Steam) is taking their front against mobile games one step further: http://kotaku.com/5840618/ignoring-iphone-3ds-and-vita-hype-valve-doesnt-want-to-make-portable-games