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Started by DivineLegend, July 01, 2010, 02:01:29 AM

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DivineLegend

For those of you who still use playlist.com for listening to music, time to move on.
Friend showed me grooveshark, and for people with nice computers that can handle running a couple apps at once (my laptop can't :() and has enough bandwidth, you can find ANY song on here... i haven't not found a song... i even found a starcraft parody called DT's on Top (from Tik Tok by keesha) I haven't yet gotten into the full features of grooveshark, but i am also not a VIP.

NotoriousM4^

I'm not really a fan of grooveshark. However I love Pandora!

EpicPhailure

Quote from: NotoriousM4^ on July 01, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
I'm not really a fan of grooveshark. However I love Pandora!

The only thing I don't like about Pandora is that you have a limited number of skips each hour, so you may be stuck listening to some retarded song, and it doesn't refresh even if you remake the station (at least for me it doesn't).

I usually just download the music from youtube using a converter, so if I'm stuck without an internet connection, I'm still able to listen to it.

Scotty


EpicPhailure

Also, I actually tried it just now.

There were only 5 of NightKilla's 64 submissions to Newgrounds. Most of his highest rated songs weren't on there, except for Positive Vibe I think.

Lingus

Quote from: EpicPhailure on July 01, 2010, 11:41:01 AM
Quote from: NotoriousM4^ on July 01, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
I'm not really a fan of grooveshark. However I love Pandora!

The only thing I don't like about Pandora is that you have a limited number of skips each hour, so you may be stuck listening to some retarded song, and it doesn't refresh even if you remake the station (at least for me it doesn't).

I usually just download the music from youtube using a converter, so if I'm stuck without an internet connection, I'm still able to listen to it.
If you're having to skip songs that much you need to customize the station. Try thumbing down (which I believe you can do an unlimited number of times) which not only skips but also removes the song from the station (and if you want to skip the song why do you want it on the station). Also if you thumb down a given artist more than twice, it removes the artist from the station. Thumbing up will make sure the song is played more often. Or you can also add additional seeds by customizing the station which makes sure more stuff you like is played more often.

In general, I never have to skip songs on Pandora. I thumb stuff down occasionally, but it's pretty good most of the time. I think it really depends on how you listen to music though. I generally don't care who the artist is or what song specifically it is so long as it fits a certain vibe, which Pandora is great for. If you plug in an artist or two that you like the feel of, you typically get back other stuff that fits that same feel. But then again, I'm pretty open minded about music. As long as it sounds good I don't really care. I don't try to fit it in a specific genre or anything. So most things go. If you are more specific about the music you listen to, it might be a different experience.

NotoriousM4^

Quote from: Lingus on July 01, 2010, 08:58:42 PM
Quote from: EpicPhailure on July 01, 2010, 11:41:01 AM
Quote from: NotoriousM4^ on July 01, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
I'm not really a fan of grooveshark. However I love Pandora!

The only thing I don't like about Pandora is that you have a limited number of skips each hour, so you may be stuck listening to some retarded song, and it doesn't refresh even if you remake the station (at least for me it doesn't).

I usually just download the music from youtube using a converter, so if I'm stuck without an internet connection, I'm still able to listen to it.
If you're having to skip songs that much you need to customize the station. Try thumbing down (which I believe you can do an unlimited number of times) which not only skips but also removes the song from the station (and if you want to skip the song why do you want it on the station). Also if you thumb down a given artist more than twice, it removes the artist from the station. Thumbing up will make sure the song is played more often. Or you can also add additional seeds by customizing the station which makes sure more stuff you like is played more often.

In general, I never have to skip songs on Pandora. I thumb stuff down occasionally, but it's pretty good most of the time. I think it really depends on how you listen to music though. I generally don't care who the artist is or what song specifically it is so long as it fits a certain vibe, which Pandora is great for. If you plug in an artist or two that you like the feel of, you typically get back other stuff that fits that same feel. But then again, I'm pretty open minded about music. As long as it sounds good I don't really care. I don't try to fit it in a specific genre or anything. So most things go. If you are more specific about the music you listen to, it might be a different experience.
I agree 100% with Lingus, Pandora actually taught me alot about the type of music I like. I've discovered many new artists that I've never heard of before that I am very fond of now. I rarely ever have skip.

DivineLegend

never heard of pandora, but from the sounds of it, it kinda sounds like a radio online.

Lingus

It's weird. Pandora is the biggest internet radio option there is. It's on every conceivable device I have ever seen that deals with media that has additional internet applications (such as my bluray player which has Netflix, Blockbuster, Youtube, and Pandora). Yet some people have not heard of it...

From what I've seen, it does pretty well. I'd at least give it a chance if you haven't tried it. I've used last.fm and was not overly impressed, though it does pretty much the same thing as Pandora from what I can tell. There was also another site http://musicovery.com/ that, rather than plugging in a song or artist, you give it parameters. Like, year range, different moods (from energetic to calm and dark to positive), genres, etc. and then it picks music that fit those criteria. Pretty interesting. I haven't heard of radio online... I can't seem to find the site.

I'm just checking out Grooveshark right now... what's the catch? It seems like you can just search for any music (I just plugged in an artist) and it gives you a list that matches your search (all the songs from that artist) and you can play them. How... Just, I didn't think that was possible. Legality and all that. Royalties. From what I've heard, Pandora was almost shut down, but apparently got around any legality because you can't actually type in a song and have it play that specific song (at least not right away, it would come up eventually in the station though.) How can a site like this simply put up music and let people search for it and play it with no cost or anything?

Ya-huh:

QuoteOperating in similar fashion to other online services like YouTube and Vimeo, Grooveshark does not indemnify their users for any unlicensed uploaded content. Users have complained about the lack of indemnification protection found in their EULA.[17] Despite these concerns, no user to date has faced legal action from Grooveshark or third-parties. Parties in the USA claiming copyright infringement may use mechanisms of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) to request that their content be removed. Repeat offenders, users who have uploaded unlicensed content more than two times, have had their Grooveshark accounts suspended.[18] Grooveshark makes a Label List available of all record labels with which they have royalty agreements, though noticeably absent were any major record labels.[19] This changed on May 8, 2009[20] EMI filed a copyright infringement lawsuit against Grooveshark,[21] which was dropped on October 13, 2009 and replaced with a licensing deal.[22]

In March of 2010, Pink Floyd sued EMI over the amount of royalties the band should receive for digital sales of their music, and as to whether tracks from their concept albums can be sold as singles.[23] Pink Floyd won, and almost all of their tracks have been removed from Grooveshark.

In Denmark Grooveshark have still not made an agreement with KODA, which is a non-profit rights society representing Danish and international composer/publisher rights. According to KODA Grooveshark is still a pirate service and should therefore not be used since Danish composers and songwriters do not receive enough money from Grooveshark.[24]

I think I'll continue with Pandora for the time being. This site is too good to be true. It allows you to search for any song/artist that has been uploaded to the site, and also has a similar feature to Pandora where it suggests similar songs if you so choose. Best of both worlds. Except it's only legal if the record company has signed a deal with Grooveshark.