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The last boss helmet

Started by CherryPie, November 15, 2010, 02:31:34 PM

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Lucifer

Quote from: Mystery on November 16, 2010, 07:48:21 PM
Quote from: Forum on November 16, 2010, 04:57:46 PM
We need an int hat that gives +11 or +10 int!!
Quote from: T-Rok on November 16, 2010, 05:18:01 PM
I could go for one of those. Int hat all the way.
Sure, as long as we're going to NEAR COMPLETELY RUIN the point of adding points into a single stat with overpowered hat stat boosts, why stop at AGI with Bandit Cover and INT with Uber-INT Hat? WHY NOT have a hat that adds +30 VIT, and +30 STR?  :-X

Actually I think you're onto something. At the moment, the most PvP viable hats are Bandit Cover, Dark Knight Helm, and Dragoon Helm. In other words, an Agility hat, a Vitality hat, and a balanced hat. We seem to be lacking a PvP viable Strength hat, and Int hat! The Fedora was a reasonable attempt, with 2 strength, 1 vit, 2 defense, and 4 intelligence, but it didn't work and nobody uses it. Why? Well since most people are 100 already, they can't even make use of +4 int, and 2 strength/def isn't enough. 1 Vit was also a random choice, it's like this hat was built for someone to base their build around it, but the hat itself doesn't compete with other PvP hats, so why would anyone do that?

My point being, Fedora should have kept the highest int + there currently was, 5. This is enough for people with 1 intelligence to actually make use of it, and doesn't make those of us with 7 or 13 rage our pants off. The first argument I could see would be that this is replacing the Wizard hat. Well, yeah. All of the other hats are replaced, but there's no hat with higher Strength or Intelligence that can't be bought from the shop? What the dick is that about?

My suggestion, change Fedora from.
+2 Str
+1 Vit
+4 Int
+2 Def
To
+4 Str
+5 Int
+2 Def

The single vit point is useless, sure it gives some builds one more def, but it's too conditional... Just give it another def point if that conditional point is actually necessary. Everyone complains that Fedora is absolutely pointless, lets make it into a hat that's actually viable.

Thoughts?

T-Rok

Quote from: Lucifer on November 18, 2010, 10:17:30 AM
Quote from: Mystery on November 16, 2010, 07:48:21 PM
Quote from: Forum on November 16, 2010, 04:57:46 PM
We need an int hat that gives +11 or +10 int!!
Quote from: T-Rok on November 16, 2010, 05:18:01 PM
I could go for one of those. Int hat all the way.
Sure, as long as we're going to NEAR COMPLETELY RUIN the point of adding points into a single stat with overpowered hat stat boosts, why stop at AGI with Bandit Cover and INT with Uber-INT Hat? WHY NOT have a hat that adds +30 VIT, and +30 STR?  :-X

Actually I think you're onto something. At the moment, the most PvP viable hats are Bandit Cover, Dark Knight Helm, and Dragoon Helm. In other words, an Agility hat, a Vitality hat, and a balanced hat. We seem to be lacking a PvP viable Strength hat, and Int hat! The Fedora was a reasonable attempt, with 2 strength, 1 vit, 2 defense, and 4 intelligence, but it didn't work and nobody uses it. Why? Well since most people are 100 already, they can't even make use of +4 int, and 2 strength/def isn't enough. 1 Vit was also a random choice, it's like this hat was built for someone to base their build around it, but the hat itself doesn't compete with other PvP hats, so why would anyone do that?

My point being, Fedora should have kept the highest int + there currently was, 5. This is enough for people with 1 intelligence to actually make use of it, and doesn't make those of us with 7 or 13 rage our pants off. The first argument I could see would be that this is replacing the Wizard hat. Well, yeah. All of the other hats are replaced, but there's no hat with higher Strength or Intelligence that can't be bought from the shop? What the dick is that about?

My suggestion, change Fedora from.
+2 Str
+1 Vit
+4 Int
+2 Def
To
+4 Str
+5 Int
+2 Def

The single vit point is useless, sure it gives some builds one more def, but it's too conditional... Just give it another def point if that conditional point is actually necessary. Everyone complains that Fedora is absolutely pointless, lets make it into a hat that's actually viable.

Thoughts?


I approve of this message. lol. Perfect for my lvl 67 to build around.

Mystery

Quote from: Lucifer on November 18, 2010, 10:17:30 AM
Quote from: Mystery on November 16, 2010, 07:48:21 PM
Quote from: Forum on November 16, 2010, 04:57:46 PM
We need an int hat that gives +11 or +10 int!!
Quote from: T-Rok on November 16, 2010, 05:18:01 PM
I could go for one of those. Int hat all the way.
Sure, as long as we're going to NEAR COMPLETELY RUIN the point of adding points into a single stat with overpowered hat stat boosts, why stop at AGI with Bandit Cover and INT with Uber-INT Hat? WHY NOT have a hat that adds +30 VIT, and +30 STR?  :-X

Actually I think you're onto something. At the moment, the most PvP viable hats are Bandit Cover, Dark Knight Helm, and Dragoon Helm. In other words, an Agility hat, a Vitality hat, and a balanced hat. We seem to be lacking a PvP viable Strength hat, and Int hat! The Fedora was a reasonable attempt, with 2 strength, 1 vit, 2 defense, and 4 intelligence, but it didn't work and nobody uses it. Why? Well since most people are 100 already, they can't even make use of +4 int, and 2 strength/def isn't enough. 1 Vit was also a random choice, it's like this hat was built for someone to base their build around it, but the hat itself doesn't compete with other PvP hats, so why would anyone do that?

My point being, Fedora should have kept the highest int + there currently was, 5. This is enough for people with 1 intelligence to actually make use of it, and doesn't make those of us with 7 or 13 rage our pants off. The first argument I could see would be that this is replacing the Wizard hat. Well, yeah. All of the other hats are replaced, but there's no hat with higher Strength or Intelligence that can't be bought from the shop? What the dick is that about?

My suggestion, change Fedora from.
+2 Str
+1 Vit
+4 Int
+2 Def
To
+4 Str
+5 Int
+2 Def

The single vit point is useless, sure it gives some builds one more def, but it's too conditional... Just give it another def point if that conditional point is actually necessary. Everyone complains that Fedora is absolutely pointless, lets make it into a hat that's actually viable.

Thoughts?

Then I want a 1 point stat reset, because I added a point into INT just for Fedora.  :'(

But yeah, that sounds great.
AKA Paradox/EnragedDeity/Occurrence.
Quote from: Medgar Evers
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

crozier

I also have a strange build and the fedora rules with 8 int. (Idk if mystery has 8 or 14)

Also, yeah I think fedoras fine the way it is.

Mystery

Quote from: crozier on November 18, 2010, 05:07:09 PM
I also have a strange build and the fedora rules with 8 int. (Idk if mystery has 8 or 14)

Also, yeah I think fedoras fine the way it is.
I have 8, if I had 14, I wouldn't need it. I like Fedora, but I do think it needs some buffing. Since a single stat point reset on 2 accounts will most obviously not happen if Meiun was to buff Fedora, I'd like it to be this- +4 STR, +4 INT, +4 Def.







AKA Paradox/EnragedDeity/Occurrence.
Quote from: Medgar Evers
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

crozier

Im fine with that. But fedora is a little common to be given those good stats. Common in a sense that many people have it.
If it makes a difference, +4str, +4 int, +2 or 3 defence would be better.