Spire.

[Mr Pwnage]

@Pwnage
I'm sorry, but that's how it is for everybody. Just to touch on what Meiun said, the average SO player ping is 150-200. Although this ping is not high enough to cause the teleporation effect, your actual location on the other player's screen is a bit behind where you are. I've noticed this has the largest effect when running away in a straight line, and jumping to avoid hits. What I do to avoid this lag problem is avoid running in straight lines, and jump a half second sooner than need be. It can't ever be completely avoidable, that's just how it is, SOV3's server will fix this. This effect has nothing to do with the "hitbox" junk people have complained about with both Slasher and Spire Dagger.

That's all well and good...but I am almost certain something is wrong with it regardless...frenquently checking my ping, it is almost 99% of the time in the 60s...almost solidly staying at 67. That is a VERY good connection, because I have very good internet. The fact that I am clearly experiencing no lag, and I don't run into this issue with ANY other sort of weapon/monster attack...etc...is why I feel it's the dagger itself that is broken. Not saying your all wrong, but I am still pretty confident it's the dagger. Anyways, I'm glad to see it will be looked at.

[Meiun]

@Pwnage
There more than one person involved in a PVP fight... If the other person is lagging it can effect things as well. This is also not an effect that is unique to SO at all, as it can be seen in many games, depending somewhat on the type and structure of course. For the most part though, it tends to be fairly mild under typical circumstances.

I understand you are upset about the Spire, you have made that painfully clear, trust me. But if you expect us to actually listen to you and take you seriously, it helps if you actually listen to what people are telling you too. Also to actually make an attempt to ensure you understand it as well, before you start complaining about it again.

[Mystery]

Make every single very rare top-tier PVP weapon and hat slightly more common.

Problem solved?

Now it is.

[ARTgames]

Or able to be bought with gold.

[Seifer]

Make Slasher more common.

Problem solved?

Probably won't solve it. Maybe it was just the difference in our builds, but I must of fought gufi 20 times last night and lost every time. He needs two hits on me to my 1 slasher hit. I have 1 agi and no BC. No matter what I do, once I swing, he is able to get a couple hits in, and usually another when I'm trying to get out of spire range again.

[Mystery]

Make Slasher more common.

Problem solved?

Probably won't solve it. Maybe it was just the difference in our builds, but I must of fought gufi 20 times last night and lost every time. He needs two hits on me to my 1 slasher hit. I have 1 agi and no BC. No matter what I do, once I swing, he is able to get a couple hits in, and usually another when I'm trying to get out of spire range again.

Pretty sure this is the problem here, coupled with gufi's incredible skill, dodging, attacking, and BC.

[igufed]

Pretty sure this is the problem here, coupled with gufi's incredible skill, dodging, attacking, and BC.

I wasn't wearing BC any time during our pvping last night.

[Seifer]

It can deffinatly be attributed to his skill. But despite that, even when I was able to effectivly land hits, it would leave me open for a couple hits.

[Matty_Richo]

Whilst I mostly agree with foG here (as I hate the fact that it pretty much makes Katana useless IMO) I don't think the regen time has to be made that much longer. When I was on Gufi and Igufed was on Igufed, we stood there both using spire both wearing gb and just hitting and before either of us stammed Igufed won because his agi meant he could hit significantly faster. So if anything I think that it does somehow need to be nerfed and/or a new slightly more common (than slasher) weapon should be added that is a good counter weapon for the spire, maybe a new sort of more powerful whip or something.

[Mystery]

Whilst I mostly agree with foG here (as I hate the fact that it pretty much makes Katana useless IMO) I don't think the regen time has to be made that much longer. When I was on Gufi and Igufed was on Igufed, we stood there both using spire both wearing gb and just hitting and before either of us stammed Igufed won because his agi meant he could hit significantly faster. So if anything I think that it does somehow need to be nerfed and/or a new slightly more common (than slasher) weapon should be added that is a good counter weapon for the spire, maybe a new sort of more powerful whip or something.

That's exactly what Slasher is. The only problem is that it's incredibly rare, rarer than Spire.

Pretty sure this is the problem here, coupled with gufi's incredible skill, dodging, attacking, and BC.

I wasn't wearing BC any time during our pvping last night.

Really? I must have a bad memory then.  :(

[igufed]

Really? I must have a bad memory then.  :(

I meant when Seifer and I were pvping..

[Mystery]

Really? I must have a bad memory then.  :(

I meant when Seifer and I were pvping..

Ah.

[Seifer]

I fail to see how Slasher is a counter to Spire.

[Danimal]

I fail to see how Slasher is a counter to Spire.

I beat Lucifer on Razor without using Spire... Maybe you just suck? JK :P

[Chaos]

I fail to see how Slasher is a counter to Spire.

Range, for one.