Global Drop Rate Increase

[Seifer]

Here is an idea. Keep the drop rates the same for SOv2, but make them more common in SOv3.

Here's an idea, keep suggestions of So3 out of topics about SO2, and let's all stop assuming So3 will be virtually the same as So2. It's making me sick. Everyone assumes it's going to be the same bloody game, and make suggestions that are about taking what we have and slightly changing it.

[Forum]

Here is an idea. Keep the drop rates the same for SOv2, but make them more common in SOv3.

No.. we want an increase of drop rate.. most likely for spire,BC,IS,slasher,LSB o.o

[Freeforall]

Here is an idea. Keep the drop rates the same for SOv2, but make them more common in SOv3.

No.. we want an increase of drop rate.. most likely for spire,BC,IS,slasher,LSB o.o

Why? I think the drop rates are fine. I just now got a spire. 2 have dropped already this week.
BC? Everyone I see has it. I only know a few people who don't. Slasher? I think a lot of
people have it. The people who don't have one don't hardly fight SG. LSB? It was JUST released and
has already dropped once.

Before you people complain about drop rate of LSB, give it a little more time. It hasn't been
out that long yet.

[Ceroblitz]

Here is an idea. Keep the drop rates the same for SOv2, but make them more common in SOv3.

No.. we want an increase of drop rate.. most likely for spire,BC,IS,slasher,LSB o.o

Why? I think the drop rates are fine. I just now got a spire. 2 have dropped already this week.
BC? Everyone I see has it. I only know a few people who don't. Slasher? I think a lot of
people have it. The people who don't have one don't hardly fight SG. LSB? It was JUST released and
has already dropped once.

Before you people complain about drop rate of LSB, give it a little more time. It hasn't been
out that long yet.

lsb's been out a year (the update before foG got his LSS), 3 people were given slasher, and about 5 people got it from drop.

Spire and BC are most sought items, BC supposedly being more common. However, it is fine as it is, it just doesn't drop for the right people (people you have hunted it for a long period of time).

IS is just rare, as DS  don't spawn as often as they did due to the lack of players.

[Mystery]

I'm confused. Is this about Drop Rates still?

Yes. There talking about chaos's idea. They are tying to find out a good price for chaos's potion that will increase drop rate.

@all
Also how much better will it increase drop rate?

I'd think a good number would be x1.5. Extremely boosting drops, not very very slightly boosting drops, and not x2(since I know SOME PEOPLE would complain about that number).

Here is an idea. Keep the drop rates the same for SOv2, but make them more common in SOv3.

No.. we want an increase of drop rate.. most likely for spire,BC,IS,slasher,LSB o.o

Why? I think the drop rates are fine. I just now got a spire. 2 have dropped already this week.
BC? Everyone I see has it. I only know a few people who don't. Slasher? I think a lot of
people have it. The people who don't have one don't hardly fight SG. LSB? It was JUST released and
has already dropped once.

Before you people complain about drop rate of LSB, give it a little more time. It hasn't been
out that long yet.

You cannot use averages as a good summary of drop rates. On average, people have GS. It's still semi-rare. A large group of people have Spire, it's still rare. A good amount of people have IS, it's still very rare. Rather, you need to look at the entirety of Stick Online players and judge them on an individual basis.

Also, a lot of people don't have Slasher, on the contrary, VERY FEW PEOPLE DO. And LSB wasn't JUST released, it's been available for over a year now. It just happened to drop when a topic was made about it and Kokorrio came along to fight his first SG at level 29.

And looking at this topic, I'm sure most people agree with me...although they could just want 'very easy' items. That is not my intention.

EDIT: Ninja'd...Ceroblitz summed up the rest..

[Looperpuck]

I actually don't find it all that hard to get items, if your in the right place at the right time. Answer this, has anybody here not ever gotten at least 2 items that they wanted? And even trying to get that 1 last item, you probably gain 3 or 4 other rare/good items in the process. Example: Hunting for a Spire at the banits, you can easily get Bunny ears and Black bunny ears, and maybe a Bandit cover, in the process of retrieving that Spire. On both my accounts (Not including my Latest one) I gotten pretty much every item that I was aiming for (And even a couple I wasn't) with a weeks worth of grinding. So suck it up, and stop whining about everything. Trust me, I know from experience, getting all the items with ease, isn't nearly as fun as trying to get the items.

~Looperpuck

[Seifer]

Here is an idea. Keep the drop rates the same for SOv2, but make them more common in SOv3.

No.. we want an increase of drop rate.. most likely for spire,BC,IS,slasher,LSB o.o

Why? I think the drop rates are fine. I just now got a spire. 2 have dropped already this week.
BC? Everyone I see has it. I only know a few people who don't. Slasher? I think a lot of
people have it. The people who don't have one don't hardly fight SG. LSB? It was JUST released and
has already dropped once.

Before you people complain about drop rate of LSB, give it a little more time. It hasn't been
out that long yet.

lsb's been out a year (the update before foG got his LSS), 3 people were given slasher, and about 5 people got it from drop.

Spire and BC are most sought items, BC supposedly being more common. However, it is fine as it is, it just doesn't drop for the right people (people you have hunted it for a long period of time).

IS is just rare, as DS  don't spawn as often as they did due to the lack of players.

Yep, LSB has been out forever.

BC is rare enough I suppose, even if I can't get one. Spire I think should be upped. You all must realise that while a fair number do drop, where does EVERYONE hunt? When theres 15-20 players consistently hunting bandits, what the hell do you think is going to happen?

So lets say theres 15 people doing bandits every day. 1 Spire a week(Because lets be honest, we go some weeks without any.) That means it's roughly 105 days for each player to get a spire, or just over 3 months, doesn't sound so common anymore, does it?

As for IS and DH, no one hunts DS anymore. Very rarely anyways. The new thing is bandits, so it's no surprise to see DS exclusive items not dropping.

[Seifer]

I actually don't find it all that hard to get items, if your in the right place at the right time. Answer this, has anybody here not ever gotten at least 2 items that they wanted? And even trying to get that 1 last item, you probably gain 3 or 4 other rare/good items in the process. Example: Hunting for a Spire at the banits, you can easily get Bunny ears and Black bunny ears, and maybe a Bandit cover, in the process of retrieving that Spire. On both my accounts (Not including my Latest one) I gotten pretty much every item that I was aiming for (And even a couple I wasn't) with a weeks worth of grinding. So suck it up, and stop whining about everything. Trust me, I know from experience, getting all the items with ease, isn't nearly as fun as trying to get the items.

~Looperpuck

Yep, haven't gotten two items I wanted. Only rare item I have that was obtained via drops is DKH.

[Freeforall]

My bad, I thought LSB was a new item. :/
And I also think IS shouldn't be SO rare. I do realize that no one hunts DS anymore, but
I think part of that is that it's drops are insanely rare.

[Mystery]

I actually don't find it all that hard to get items, if your in the right place at the right time. Answer this, has anybody here not ever gotten at least 2 items that they wanted? And even trying to get that 1 last item, you probably gain 3 or 4 other rare/good items in the process. Example: Hunting for a Spire at the banits, you can easily get Bunny ears and Black bunny ears, and maybe a Bandit cover, in the process of retrieving that Spire. On both my accounts (Not including my Latest one) I gotten pretty much every item that I was aiming for (And even a couple I wasn't) with a weeks worth of grinding. So suck it up, and stop whining about everything. Trust me, I know from experience, getting all the items with ease, isn't nearly as fun as trying to get the items.

~Looperpuck

Sorry, but I disagree entirely. Not everyone can easily get BBE and BE, that's just you, probably. Mr Pwnage has been hunting/wanting BBE for a lonnng time, and he still hasn't gotten them. My only bunny ear drop EVER was a DBE at a low level. I was killed by a bandit before I could get them. ...I've been mainly at bandits since and I've almost NEVER gotten a drop from a bunny ever again(one Ninja Mask from BB). Also, 'right place at the right time'? That's pure luck.

And 'at least 2 items they wanted'? No, I haven't. I want solely DKH and Spire Dagger. GB and Fedora were nice to get(I admit, I like Fedora now) but the main items I want I haven't come close to getting. My only rare items are Dragoon Helmet, Stone Hammer, Green Beret, and Fedora(and 3 of those are debatably semi-common).

'I gotten pretty much every item that I was aiming for(And even a couple I wasn't) with a weeks worth of grinding'? That's INCREDIBLY lucky and atypical. I doubt anyone else can say the same, and if anyone can, very few people most likely.

'Suck it up and stop whining about everything'? I'm trying to look to make the game easier, and more fun for people. It's not fun when you grind for months on end and don't get anything.

Also, grinding for months on end to get a single item isn't fun. It's tedious, boring, and not fun at all. THIS is what I want to avoid, intense grinding and getting nothing. At least make it likelier to get something, so you know that it's not near impossible.

[Freeforall]

I actually don't find it all that hard to get items, if your in the right place at the right time. Answer this, has anybody here not ever gotten at least 2 items that they wanted? And even trying to get that 1 last item, you probably gain 3 or 4 other rare/good items in the process. Example: Hunting for a Spire at the banits, you can easily get Bunny ears and Black bunny ears, and maybe a Bandit cover, in the process of retrieving that Spire. On both my accounts (Not including my Latest one) I gotten pretty much every item that I was aiming for (And even a couple I wasn't) with a weeks worth of grinding. So suck it up, and stop whining about everything. Trust me, I know from experience, getting all the items with ease, isn't nearly as fun as trying to get the items.

~Looperpuck

Sorry, but I disagree entirely. Not everyone can easily get BBE and BE, that's just you, probably. Mr Pwnage has been hunting/wanting BBE for a lonnng time, and he still hasn't gotten them. My only bunny ear drop EVER was a DBE at a low level. I was killed by a bandit before I could get them. ...I've been mainly at bandits since and I've almost NEVER gotten a drop from a bunny ever again(one Ninja Mask from BB). Also, 'right place at the right time'? That's pure luck.

And 'at least 2 items they wanted'? No, I haven't. I want solely DKH and Spire Dagger. GB and Fedora were nice to get(I admit, I like Fedora now) but the main items I want I haven't come close to getting. My only rare items are Dragoon Helmet, Stone Hammer, Green Beret, and Fedora(and 3 of those are debatably semi-common).

'I gotten pretty much every item that I was aiming for(And even a couple I wasn't) with a weeks worth of grinding'? That's INCREDIBLY lucky and atypical. I doubt anyone else can say the same, and if anyone can, very few people most likely.

'Suck it up and stop whining about everything'? I'm trying to look to make the game easier, and more fun for people. It's not fun when you grind for months on end and don't get anything.

Also, grinding for months on end to get a single item isn't fun. It's tedious, boring, and not fun at all. THIS is what I want to avoid, intense grinding and getting nothing. At least make it likelier to get something, so you know that it's not near impossible.

I see your point Mystery. But when you get a rare item, you feel like you have really accomplished something. If the items weren't as rare, you wouldn't have that sense of accomplishment. Especially if everyone started getting more and more of this item.

[Mystery]

I actually don't find it all that hard to get items, if your in the right place at the right time. Answer this, has anybody here not ever gotten at least 2 items that they wanted? And even trying to get that 1 last item, you probably gain 3 or 4 other rare/good items in the process. Example: Hunting for a Spire at the banits, you can easily get Bunny ears and Black bunny ears, and maybe a Bandit cover, in the process of retrieving that Spire. On both my accounts (Not including my Latest one) I gotten pretty much every item that I was aiming for (And even a couple I wasn't) with a weeks worth of grinding. So suck it up, and stop whining about everything. Trust me, I know from experience, getting all the items with ease, isn't nearly as fun as trying to get the items.

~Looperpuck

Sorry, but I disagree entirely. Not everyone can easily get BBE and BE, that's just you, probably. Mr Pwnage has been hunting/wanting BBE for a lonnng time, and he still hasn't gotten them. My only bunny ear drop EVER was a DBE at a low level. I was killed by a bandit before I could get them. ...I've been mainly at bandits since and I've almost NEVER gotten a drop from a bunny ever again(one Ninja Mask from BB). Also, 'right place at the right time'? That's pure luck.

And 'at least 2 items they wanted'? No, I haven't. I want solely DKH and Spire Dagger. GB and Fedora were nice to get(I admit, I like Fedora now) but the main items I want I haven't come close to getting. My only rare items are Dragoon Helmet, Stone Hammer, Green Beret, and Fedora(and 3 of those are debatably semi-common).

'I gotten pretty much every item that I was aiming for(And even a couple I wasn't) with a weeks worth of grinding'? That's INCREDIBLY lucky and atypical. I doubt anyone else can say the same, and if anyone can, very few people most likely.

'Suck it up and stop whining about everything'? I'm trying to look to make the game easier, and more fun for people. It's not fun when you grind for months on end and don't get anything.

Also, grinding for months on end to get a single item isn't fun. It's tedious, boring, and not fun at all. THIS is what I want to avoid, intense grinding and getting nothing. At least make it likelier to get something, so you know that it's not near impossible.

I see your point Mystery. But when you get a rare item, you feel like you have really accomplished something. If the items weren't as rare, you wouldn't have that sense of accomplishment. Especially if everyone started getting more and more of this item.

...People ALREADY DON'T. I thought I had something when I got my Stone Hammer. ....Then 3 people got it in less than 30 minutes at mountain, one of them Danimal, and it was his 13th.

And what if you NEVER got any of these drops? You feel like you've accomplished nothing, even when you've tried so hard. And everyone else HAS. It's not your fault, it's the fault of chance, and that's !@#$ing ridiculous. No one should be subject to that. Give EVERYONE a better chance, and no one complains.

Also, drop 'excitement' has drastically waned lately. Several people have complained about rare drops, or said they want more, and they don't care about their whining. (...Yes, I'm one of these people, but it doesn't detract from my point. Others act this way, too.)

[ARTgames]

and let's all stop assuming So3 will be virtually the same as So3. It's making me sick.

I hate to break it to you Seifer. But So3 is going to be just like So3. :/ Just look at So2. Its like So2 in every which way.

:P

[Seifer]

and let's all stop assuming So3 will be virtually the same as So3. It's making me sick.

I hate to break it to you Seifer. But So3 is going to be just like So3. :/ Just look at So2. Its like So2 in every which way.

:P

Ooops fixed!

[Matty_Richo]

Here is an idea. Keep the drop rates the same for SOv2, but make them more common in SOv3.

No.. we want an increase of drop rate.. most likely for spire,BC,IS,slasher,LSB o.o

Why? I think the drop rates are fine. I just now got a spire. 2 have dropped already this week.
BC? Everyone I see has it. I only know a few people who don't. Slasher? I think a lot of
people have it. The people who don't have one don't hardly fight SG. LSB? It was JUST released and
has already dropped once.

Before you people complain about drop rate of LSB, give it a little more time. It hasn't been
out that long yet.

Spire: EVERYONE is looking for it and that's why it drops.
Slasher: Only people with slasher are: Seifer (given to him), Joel, ASD, Ewein (Won them, not form drop), Razor, Danimal, Gufi, DemonClawz, Maggi, Fabi619 (his got deleted and his account is no longer around)
That's only 6 legit drops, and it's been out for well over a year.
LSB: Out for over a year and only dropped once
BC: Again, EVERYONE is at bandits, so more drop.
IS: If you remember back to when the game was public and we had hundreds of people playing daily, it was at least a month before anyone got it and after Venuse got the first one it was still, and still is, extremely rare, and especially with the low amount of people playing now, we get them very rarely, as has been said, Danimal got the first one in 8 months.

So considering the low amount of people = low amount of boss spawns = low amount of rare drops, probably does mean that the game could use a global drop increase, and spawn rate increase, with bosses, however i think monsters such as Rockies and Cacti and whatnot should be kept the same (despite the fact that i spent 6 straight hours at the mountain trying to get the stupid Viking Helm and didn't get one)