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Guys c'mon what's wrong?

Started by CherryPie, February 09, 2011, 02:14:02 PM

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scsox

Quote from: darkflash on February 14, 2011, 10:44:26 PM
its an IS the 2nd best wep in the game dont expect it from 60 DS

whats the first best? hmmmm?

darkflash

lsb.. now that i think of it is slasher better than IS or?

Celson

Quote from: darkflash on February 15, 2011, 12:06:47 AM
lsb.. now that i think of it is slasher better than IS or?

That really depends on the stats of the player using it. You can't expect a player with 1 agi to be able to use the slasher effectively, but he certainly will be able to use the IS well with proper use of the terrain.



CherryPie

Quote from: darkflash on February 15, 2011, 12:06:47 AM
lsb.. now that i think of it is slasher better than IS or?
It goes like this:
LSB > IS = SLASHER = SPIRE > GS
depending on your stats the 3 in the middle can vary and make spire for example a better decision than IS.
However LSB will always dominate the 3 and GS will always be weaker than the 3.



Celson

Quote from: CherryPie on February 15, 2011, 05:01:18 AM
Quote from: darkflash on February 15, 2011, 12:06:47 AM
lsb.. now that i think of it is slasher better than IS or?
It goes like this:
LSB > IS = SLASHER = SPIRE > GS
depending on your stats the 3 in the middle can vary and make spire for example a better decision than IS.
However LSB will always dominate the 3 and GS will always be weaker than the 3.

I wouldn't say that LSB, IS, slasher or spire dagger is any better than each other. Slasher can beat LSB, but can't beat spire dagger.

Although If I really had to choose, I'd say spire dagger is the best weapon in the game (only with the right stats and great skill). Lucifer has already proved this in the last tournament.

But the best pvpers will always be the ones that use multiple weapons. That really !@#$s people up.



darkflash

ya cause then they'll haft to keep changing there battle tactics that would be confusing for them  ;D

igufed

Quote from: Celson on February 15, 2011, 06:56:12 AM
Slasher can beat LSB, but can't beat spire dagger.

But the best pvpers will always be the ones that use multiple weapons. That really !@#$s people up.

I disagree with the whole slasher can't beat spire..

I also disagree with the whole best pvpers will "always be the ones that use multiple weapons."

I've beaten spire with slasher, and I rarely use more than 1 weapon during a fight.
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Celson

Quote from: igufed on February 15, 2011, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: Celson on February 15, 2011, 06:56:12 AM
Slasher can beat LSB, but can't beat spire dagger.

But the best pvpers will always be the ones that use multiple weapons. That really !@#$s people up.

I disagree with the whole slasher can't beat spire..

I also disagree with the whole best pvpers will "always be the ones that use multiple weapons."

I've beaten spire with slasher, and I rarely use more than 1 weapon during a fight.

You can't beat Igumal. He changes weapons all the time. And it all really depends on who is using what. But more often than not, spire will beat slasher.



Mystery

Quote from: Celson on February 15, 2011, 07:44:29 PM
Quote from: igufed on February 15, 2011, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: Celson on February 15, 2011, 06:56:12 AM
Slasher can beat LSB, but can't beat spire dagger.

But the best pvpers will always be the ones that use multiple weapons. That really !@#$s people up.

I disagree with the whole slasher can't beat spire..

I also disagree with the whole best pvpers will "always be the ones that use multiple weapons."

I've beaten spire with slasher, and I rarely use more than 1 weapon during a fight.

You can't beat Igumal. He changes weapons all the time. And it all really depends on who is using what. But more often than not, spire will beat slasher.
Igumal's difficulty to beat doesn't stem from his weapon changing, although it does help. It's his essentially perfected tanking build, essentially perfected tanking style, skill, and ridiculously good inventory. Tanking is the most dominant strategy in SO, although I hate to admit it.
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igufed

Quote from: Celson on February 15, 2011, 07:44:29 PM
You can't beat Igumal. He changes weapons all the time. And it all really depends on who is using what. But more often than not, spire will beat slasher.

I've beaten Igumal.  It all depends on the person and how they pvp.  

I'd put spire and slasher pretty close to the same in value. I can't say which is better.  It depends on who I'm fighting and what they have for me to choose what to fight with. 98% of the time I stick with 1 weapon during a fight.
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CherryPie

LSB is definitly a lot better than slasher. Slasher is meant to be 2:1 hit ratio vs IS and 0,5:1 vs Spire.
But with LSB you can counter it and any weapon, due to it's knockback.
If you learn to use it effectively, your enemy can't put in 2 Slasher hits before you hit him next time with LSB. You can almost hit for hit everyone with it, maybe 1:1,5 - 1:2 vs Spire, but still 1 LSB hit > 2 Spire hits, so LSB is definitly the best weapon ingame.

Even Meiun said, that it is meant to be the top-notch item of all that are available.



Celson

Quote from: CherryPie on February 17, 2011, 03:56:18 AM
LSB is definitly a lot better than slasher. Slasher is meant to be 2:1 hit ratio vs IS and 0,5:1 vs Spire.
But with LSB you can counter it and any weapon, due to it's knockback.
If you learn to use it effectively, your enemy can't put in 2 Slasher hits before you hit him next time with LSB. You can almost hit for hit everyone with it, maybe 1:1,5 - 1:2 vs Spire, but still 1 LSB hit > 2 Spire hits, so LSB is definitly the best weapon ingame.

Even Meiun said, that it is meant to be the top-notch item of all that are available.

Then how come DC kicked foG's ass in the tourny using slasher against his gs + LSB?



scsox

because he has low agi and low Int which don't work well with LSB

Celson

Quote from: scsox on February 17, 2011, 09:57:49 AM
because he has low agi and low Int which don't work well with LSB

Exactly. All depends on the stats and skill of the user. So saying LSB is better than slasher is false.