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HP computers and tablets rumor.

Started by havok, September 02, 2011, 11:22:49 AM

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havok

there is a rumour that HP will stop making laptops and tablets here is the answer for you all if you wanted to know.

http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2011/110818b.html


I personally love HP and just bought a epic laptop from them. But leave your thought about it.



(there you go ben)


ARTgames

Dons forget desktops and phones also: http://atltek.net/hp-to-stop-making-desktops-laptops-tablets-and-phones-gadget-core

its kinda wired if they do. But in retrospect I dont think we will really be missing anything since what they make and the other pc makers make is just the same thing in a different case. :?

havok

i have to disagree there i have had a lot of comps and hp are far better to me. I have never had one crash or go down.Yes they might have some of the same things but its how they build them. im busy atm so i cant go into detail on what i want to say sorry lol


Matty_Richo

Quote from: havok on September 02, 2011, 07:22:01 PM
i have to disagree there i have had a lot of comps and hp are far better to me. I have never had one crash or go down.Yes they might have some of the same things but its how they build them. im busy atm so i cant go into detail on what i want to say sorry lol
I'd agree with Havok here, all 4 people in my Family have laptops, My sister has an ASUS which had to be sent away because the keyboard stopped working, my dad has a Lenovo which the Hard Drive died in, and my mum had a Dell that... well it was a Dell, so she ended up getting a Lenovo, and I have an HP and mine is the only one that hasn't had any problems. So yeah, even though they use similar parts and the computers themselves are designed for the same purposes, the quality of HP computers is unmatched.

havok

Quote from: Matty_Richo on September 02, 2011, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: havok on September 02, 2011, 07:22:01 PM
i have to disagree there i have had a lot of comps and hp are far better to me. I have never had one crash or go down.Yes they might have some of the same things but its how they build them. im busy atm so i cant go into detail on what i want to say sorry lol
I'd agree with Havok here, all 4 people in my Family have laptops, My sister has an ASUS which had to be sent away because the keyboard stopped working, my dad has a Lenovo which the Hard Drive died in, and my mum had a Dell that... well it was a Dell, so she ended up getting a Lenovo, and I have an HP and mine is the only one that hasn't had any problems. So yeah, even though they use similar parts and the computers themselves are designed for the same purposes, the quality of HP computers is unmatched.


by far lol i have a laptop the 8 years old from HP still runs fine. the parts are a bit out dated but it runs nice. and ask meuin about a asus lol


DarkTrinity

Well. I can't say if this was an HP problem or a Best Buy problem... But I had problems with my previous HP computer... The hard drive died twice(both in less than a 3 year span), the graphics card that came with my computer was defective the day I first brought it home (got that replaced when they replaced my HD the first time). And eventually it was considered a lemon.
Now I have a new HP and it's been working good so far, though I've only had it about 4 months...

Meiun

There are bound to be some lemons with every computer brand you can get, but I can safely say that HP has had the best track record in my book, and also has some of the nicest models currently. And trust me when I say that I have had some BAD experiences with other computer brands. Ugh, I was going to buy an HP as my next one too, had the exact model picked out and everything, fml.

ARTgames

#7
Quote from: havok on September 02, 2011, 07:22:01 PM
i have to disagree there i have had a lot of comps and hp are far better to me. I have never had one crash or go down.Yes they might have some of the same things but its how they build them. im busy atm so i cant go into detail on what i want to say sorry lol

HP is just a a middle man between your and hardware vendors.  Your chip set is probably from intel or amd. (unless you some how have an arm/power pc pc) Your motherboard probably built from Asus/msi/etc. Your ram is probably some notable manufacture out of china. sony/samsung probably made your monitor.  your HDD is probably from Western Digital/Corsair/Kingston etc. Your computer is the sum of many hardware vendors work put together by your manufacture. Same goes for dell/apple/asus/compaq(HP) etc. When you HDD fails or graphics card goes it its most likely the fault of the vender they got it from. Unless you buy a Asus pc and the motherboard fails but you get the point.

The only thing that makes them stick out is branding, the parts they picked, case design, and customer support. They may do some stuff like add some extra buttons on the keyboard. Those things matter but most of peoples experiences you hear of are just anecdotal.

I have used many of the main brands like HP/Dells/Asus/Sony/etc. And it really just comes down to the hardware inside and who is having a good mouth on getting parts that are working well. When im looking for a new pc I shop around and look at the specs and the reviews of the hardware to pick whats best for me. And it has not failed me yet.

sayers6

@ART, HP also test their hardware as a whole before sending it out, and they do it better than others apparently, it's not just luck. I am very sad to see HP leave the business.

ARTgames

Yes there are many anecdotal story's you hear and marketing etc. But you cant just say that and its true. :/ And this sort of stuff just shifts from brand to brand. But realistically speaking HP puts together hundreds of thousands of pcs over the course of a year. If you think they are really testing each and every ones of them individually then I don't know what to say.

Meiun

#10
Quote from: ARTgames on September 03, 2011, 12:08:23 AM
Quote from: havok on September 02, 2011, 07:22:01 PM
i have to disagree there i have had a lot of comps and hp are far better to me. I have never had one crash or go down.Yes they might have some of the same things but its how they build them. im busy atm so i cant go into detail on what i want to say sorry lol

HP is just a a middle man between your and hardware vendors.  Your chip set is probably from intel or amd. (unless you some how have an arm/power pc pc) Your motherboard probably built from Asus/msi/etc. Your ram is probably some notable manufacture out of china. sony/samsung probably made your monitor.  your HDD is probably from Western Digital/Corsair/Kingston etc. Your computer is the sum of many hardware vendors work put together by your manufacture. Same goes for dell/apple/asus/compaq(HP) etc. When you HDD fails or graphics card goes it its most likely the fault of the vender they got it from. Unless you buy a Asus pc and the motherboard fails but you get the point.

The only thing that makes them stick out is branding, the parts they picked, case design, and customer support. They may do some stuff like add some extra buttons on the keyboard. Those things matter but most of peoples experiences you hear of are just anecdotal.

I have used many of the main brands like HP/Dells/Asus/Sony/etc. And it really just comes down to the hardware inside and who is having a good mouth on getting parts that are working well. When im looking for a new pc I shop around and look at the specs and the reviews of the hardware to pick whats best for me. And it has not failed me yet.
You are sort of missing the point. Yes, your score on a benchmark does come down purely to the components inside (such as Intel processor, AMD/Nvidia Graphics card, etc.). But the brand is going to effect how they assemble these components together, the level of Quality Assurance that goes into testing their builds before they ship them out (burn in time, etc.), good driver availability (which can be crucial, and can be a big restriction with a bad laptop vendor), and what kind of combinations of those hardware components you can even get in the machine to begin with. Not to mention that it effects the case and design, which not only totally changes it's aesthetic appeal, but also has huge impacts on things like cooling which can make or break a computer.

Quote from: ARTgames on September 03, 2011, 12:24:24 AM
Yes there are many anecdotal story's you hear and marketing etc. But you cant just say that and its true. :/ And this sort of stuff just shifts from brand to brand. But realistically speaking HP puts together hundreds of thousands of pcs over the course of a year. If you think they are really testing each and every ones of them individually then I don't know what to say.
Good vendors do test their computers before shipping them... At least to do a good burn in on the hardware. That's why most machines you order take so damn long to ship. It's not like it requires any heavy user interaction, it can all be fairly easily automated. The most common time for any piece of computer hardware to fail is right near the beginning of it's life cycle. Hence why it is is really important to get it past this high risk period before it is sold. I'm sure many companies do cheap out on this sort of thing, but some are still definitely better than others.

Edit: Oh, and not to mention that a lot of these company's use proprietary (non standard variations) of their hardware, which can have a big impact on things in some cases.

ARTgames

#11
That is along the lines with that I tied (but I think failed) to make the point of. As I said "and it really just comes down to the hardware inside and who is having a good mouth on getting parts that are working well." Meaning the hardware they picked and get and how they work together and if they are good parts to start with. And yes I agree that there special touches they do are something. As I said in the post "Those things matter". I do agree there is a difference in quality between buying a dell inspiron and a mac book pro that was directly because of the hardware, testing and built quality the brands put in it.

I am also not aiming hate dirty at hp at all thought it may sound like it. Im talking about pc venders in generally. And its my fault that my post came off so negative. Sorry about that.

My conclusion was "When im looking for a new pc I shop around and look at the specs and the reviews of the hardware to pick whats best for me." I'm basically saying don't pick your pc off the brand. Pick it off the hardware they built it with, what people say about the final product, and what you need. And I feel that is sensible.

And its my opinion but I do feel with HP gone I still think there are many other just as good pc venders out there that can do just as a good job as they did. And that thinking of mine is based off past experiences with other pc makers I have used. Which is what I should have said in my first post.

Meiun

#12
Quote from: ARTgames on September 03, 2011, 12:59:40 AM
That is along the lines with that I tied (but I think failed) to make the point of. As I said "and it really just comes down to the hardware inside and who is having a good mouth on getting parts that are working well." Meaning the hardware they picked and get and how they work together and if they are good parts to start with. And yes I agree that there special touches they do are something. As I said in the post "Those things matter". I do agree there is a difference in quality between buying a dell inspiron and a mac book pro that was directly because of the hardware, testing and built quality the brands put in it.

I am also not aiming hate dirty at hp at all thought it may sound like it. Im talking about pc venders in generally. And its my fault that my post came off so negative. Sorry about that.

My conclusion was "When im looking for a new pc I shop around and look at the specs and the reviews of the hardware to pick whats best for me." I'm basically saying don't pick your pc off the brand. Pick it off the hardware they built it with and what people say about the final product.

And its my opinion but I do feel with HP gone I still think there are many other just as good pc venders out there that can do just as a good job as they did. And that thinking of mine is based off past experiences with other pc makers I have used. Which is what I should have said in my first post.
Ah, yeah. I gotcha now. My fault for not reading into what you were saying a bit more, that was sheer ignorance on my part. There definitely are some vendors that do tend to be far more risky and others that tend to be far less when it comes to getting a solid product was the big point I was trying to make (and which you pretty much outlined anyways). But yes, brand definitely shouldn't be the determining factor in what you pick.

stick d00d

I really wanted a HP as my next computer too  :-\ So what's the next best brand to buy?

DarkTrinity

Quote from: stick d00d on September 03, 2011, 08:51:34 AM
I really wanted a HP as my next computer too  :-\ So what's the next best brand to buy?
Anything but Mac.

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