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Started by Freeforall, January 10, 2012, 07:26:37 PM

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Torch

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I'm all for independent thought, making your own choices, creating your own life. This is how society moves forward. In this sense, I respect the drug-free, religious, play-it-safe man in his choice to live life in a way that he sees fit.

The problems I have are with the propaganda that mislead people into making bias decisions. The majority of anti-drug organizations in the United States are owned by pharmaceutical companies. Teenagers learn all about the "negatives" of marijuana (don't even get me started on some of the ridiculous claims they make about it) and learn absolutely NOTHING about the benefits. The information isn't given to you fact-by-fact, it is organized, condensed, exaggerated, and even falsified for the sake of upholding laws that are only in place to make sure drugs like aspirin are still in high demand.

In high school, we were given an agenda with "facts" about drugs in the back. One "fact" stated that most teenagers have never smoked marijuana, in fine print they showed their exact statistics: "only 32% of EIGHTH-GRADERS have stated that they had smoked marijuana".

How can a non-smoker make any kind of reasonable decision with all this anti-drug propaganda being thrown at them? They can't, and when they do eventually smoke, they don't know how to properly smoke it or when it is appropriate. If you are dead-set on never smoking weed, I just want you to make the decision knowing exactly what it is that you're denying yourself. You could be missing out on something great.

DarkTrinity

For some reason, I have a hard time believing marijuana actually contains ammonia in its original form... (meaning I think some people add stuff to it) And I have a hard time believing half the things the government says about marijuana.
I can see why people do it, though I think over using is bad for the same reason people become alcoholics. They just try to hide behind a drug instead of facing the real world and I don't think that's healthy no matter what kind of drug(mentally and physically). As for doing it every once and awhile, again, I compared it to alcohol. Going out drinking with your friends isn't a bad thing (assuming you don't attempt to get alcohol poisoning every time you go out), just like smoking marijuana every once and a while I don't think is a bad thing.
That being said, I'd like to state I haven't tried marijuana and I have no intention to. And the thing that bugs me the most is when people try to convince me to try it "just once". I don't need it, I may end up liking it but I don't want to like it as it is illegal, not cheap and I think it's a waste of good money that I could use on more important things... Like clothes! :D (yea, you can take hits from other people who bought it, but if you always do that, you're pretty much a cheap ass moocher.) That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. If I ever want to try it, it'll be when *I* want to, not when other people try to convince me or pressure me into doing it.
I'll stick to my killer coffee thanks ;P

ARTgames

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11clock

Quote from: Torch on January 26, 2012, 12:22:09 AM
I'm all for independent thought, making your own choices, creating your own life. This is how society moves forward. In this sense, I respect the drug-free, religious, play-it-safe man in his choice to live life in a way that he sees fit.

The problems I have are with the propaganda that mislead people into making bias decisions. The majority of anti-drug organizations in the United States are owned by pharmaceutical companies. Teenagers learn all about the "negatives" of marijuana (don't even get me started on some of the ridiculous claims they make about it) and learn absolutely NOTHING about the benefits. The information isn't given to you fact-by-fact, it is organized, condensed, exaggerated, and even falsified for the sake of upholding laws that are only in place to make sure drugs like aspirin are still in high demand.

In high school, we were given an agenda with "facts" about drugs in the back. One "fact" stated that most teenagers have never smoked marijuana, in fine print they showed their exact statistics: "only 32% of EIGHTH-GRADERS have stated that they had smoked marijuana".

How can a non-smoker make any kind of reasonable decision with all this anti-drug propaganda being thrown at them? They can't, and when they do eventually smoke, they don't know how to properly smoke it or when it is appropriate. If you are dead-set on never smoking weed, I just want you to make the decision knowing exactly what it is that you're denying yourself. You could be missing out on something great.

The problem is that, like others said, weed is illegal. I like to play by the rules, and I'm very strict when it comes to rules. In fact, this is how I respond to rule breakers (without the swearing): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NylmdC_uEM I also just don't see myself doing drugs and drinking alcohol, not part of my personality.

Scotty

Quote from: 11clock on January 26, 2012, 04:35:46 PM
In fact, this is how I respond to rule breakers (without the swearing): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NylmdC_uEM

Meh, you're just wasting your energy at that point.  No sense in getting worked up over others who don't agree with your sense of morals and what you feel is right and wrong (at least on this low of a level).  There's nothing you can do about it.

11clock

Quote from: Scotty on January 26, 2012, 04:42:16 PM
Quote from: 11clock on January 26, 2012, 04:35:46 PM
In fact, this is how I respond to rule breakers (without the swearing): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NylmdC_uEM

Meh, you're just wasting your energy at that point.  No sense in getting worked up over others who don't agree with your sense of morals and what you feel is right and wrong (at least on this low of a level).  There's nothing you can do about it.
I'm aware of that and it's a problem I'm working on. :P

Torch

Quote from: DarkTrinity on January 26, 2012, 12:42:41 PM
That being said, I'd like to state I haven't tried marijuana and I have no intention to. And the thing that bugs me the most is when people try to convince me to try it "just once". I don't need it, I may end up liking it but I don't want to like it as it is illegal, not cheap and I think it's a waste of good money that I could use on more important things... Like clothes! :D
That same logic could be used for video games. You may end up liking them, they're very expensive, and incredibly time-consuming. Marijuana "addiction" is actually virtually identical to video game "addiction".

Jake

Quote from: 11clock on January 26, 2012, 04:35:46 PM
The problem is that, like others said, weed is illegal. I like to play by the rules, and I'm very strict when it comes to rules.
If they came out with a law banning the worship of God, do you follow the rules or not? I'd like to think that you, as a human being that thinks for yourself, ignore the shit out of a law that oversteps it's boundaries and takes away your freedoms.

Lucifer

I'm not one to get into serious debates, I don't know about the beneficial and negative effects of weed, or if copious amounts of masturbation is good for the soul. I do know one thing that will kill you; stress. My advice, take some time out of your schedule and do whatever relaxes you, drugs, masturbation, prayer, a good book or an intellectual conversation, the specifics don't matter. Anxiety is one of your body's many ways of communicating with you, and it's telling you that you need to slow down and take a breather.


Mystery

Quote from: 11clock on January 26, 2012, 04:35:46 PM
The problem is that, like others said, weed is illegal. I like to play by the rules, and I'm very strict when it comes to rules.
Note that the reason I said that is not because of the legality of the drug, it's the consequences that occur if you get caught that's DUE to it being illegal that I gave that as a reason. Just 'because it's illegal' by itself is an absolutely horrible reason.

Legality shouldn't play a factor at all in making choices. For many people it doesn't, the punishments are all that are there to reinforce not doing something.

Quote from: Torch on January 26, 2012, 12:22:09 AM
I just want you to make the decision knowing exactly what it is that you're denying yourself. You could be missing out on something great.
I'm fully aware of what I'm denying myself. It's something I've never wanted to partake in, never will, and I'll be all the better for it.

I'll never be in a situation where I'd be coerced into ingesting it or another similar substance, like alcohol. I don't do that for anyone and don't want to even experience it once because of its minor harmful downsides.

I don't drink coffee and rarely drink other caffeinated beverages. I eat junk food or just plain bad-for-you food in strict moderation. I'm forced by my parents(and for my health for the vast majority of them)to take medications, but wish I could do away with them.

I don't limit something like that to just an illegal(that should be legal) drug.
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Titan

#55
Out of many many things I've done that are terrible for you, I'd say marijuana has actually been the least terrible for my health.
Edit: Also, I don't activly use it. Trying it a few times was more than enough for me, and it opened my views up a quite a bit.


Thats besides the point though.
Though most of the decisions I've made I'm fairly happy with, because I know I can look back on my life and see I took some risks.

Livin' in a lonely world.

11clock

Quote from: Jake on January 26, 2012, 08:02:14 PM
Quote from: 11clock on January 26, 2012, 04:35:46 PM
The problem is that, like others said, weed is illegal. I like to play by the rules, and I'm very strict when it comes to rules.
If they came out with a law banning the worship of God, do you follow the rules or not? I'd like to think that you, as a human being that thinks for yourself, ignore the shit out of a law that oversteps it's boundaries and takes away your freedoms.
Now if there was a law that conflicts with Christian 'law,' I'd rather follow the Christian 'law,' and to avoid punishment move to another country that offers religious freedom.
It's not like that that will happen, anyways. America was founded on religious freedom. The first amendment gives us the right of free speech.

@Mystery True, there is no point in following rules unless there are consequences for breaking them. I count the feeling of guilt as a consequence, though.

Torch

In response to the legality of weed comments, change doesn't come easy. I don't know if you guys celebrate 420 or Weed March, but these movements push for unreasonable laws to be changed. Without weed users, the government would have no pressure to change their laws and we'd never get anywhere. The government is supposed to represent the interests of the people and by constantly testing the laws on weed, we are showing the government what exactly our interests are.

In Canada, weed will likely be available in stores for recreational use within the next 5 years. The Liberal Party (one of the 2 major political parties in Canada) and the Green Party have both stated their support for making marijuana available in government-controlled stores for recreational use.

Also, getting caught with reasonable amounts of weed (under 30 grams in Canada) won't even get you a criminal charge. The worst that can happen is getting your weed taken and getting a small ticket (usually under $100). In fact, it's legal to be high! The only crime is in possession and they can't even search you for it for appearing high or smelling of weed. The only real laws are on illegal trafficking.

stick d00d

Quote from: Torch on January 26, 2012, 10:39:42 PM
In response to the legality of weed comments, change doesn't come easy. I don't know if you guys celebrate 420 or Weed March, but these movements push for unreasonable laws to be changed. Without weed users, the government would have no pressure to change their laws and we'd never get anywhere. The government is supposed to represent the interests of the people and by constantly testing the laws on weed, we are showing the government what exactly our interests are.

In Canada, weed will likely be available in stores for recreational use within the next 5 years. The Liberal Party (one of the 2 major political parties in Canada) and the Green Party have both stated their support for making marijuana available in government-controlled stores for recreational use.

Also, getting caught with reasonable amounts of weed (under 30 grams in Canada) won't even get you a criminal charge. The worst that can happen is getting your weed taken and getting a small ticket (usually under $100). In fact, it's legal to be high! The only crime is in possession and they can't even search you for it for appearing high or smelling of weed. The only real laws are on illegal trafficking.

The US govt. keeps weed illegal (unless prescribed) because they like to arrest/fine people for petty shit instead of going after real criminals. But honestly they could make big bucks off of legalizing it.

DarkTrinity

Quote from: Torch on January 26, 2012, 07:46:24 PM
Quote from: DarkTrinity on January 26, 2012, 12:42:41 PM
That being said, I'd like to state I haven't tried marijuana and I have no intention to. And the thing that bugs me the most is when people try to convince me to try it "just once". I don't need it, I may end up liking it but I don't want to like it as it is illegal, not cheap and I think it's a waste of good money that I could use on more important things... Like clothes! :D
That same logic could be used for video games. You may end up liking them, they're very expensive, and incredibly time-consuming. Marijuana "addiction" is actually virtually identical to video game "addiction".
I would not say virtually identical... Being as I don't play many console games and mostly mmorpg's, I don't have to pay for shit. Smoking marijuana also isn't very time consuming at all, but I also really don't like the smell (can't say that about video games :P ) Also, if you do buy a video game, you can use it over and over again and can last you a life time, you definitely can't say the same t hing about weed. Idk how much $40 of weed will buy you (but I'm sure it's not much), depending how much you smoke, that may last you a week? A video game can last a life-time and can even be traded in for money back or for different games.
This is basically my reasoning as why I don't particularly like spending money on fast food... Because it's a lot of money for less than a day's worth of enjoyment.
I'm not worried about being "addicted" to it, just that I would like it and spend money on it, so I'm not sure how addiction came into play... I just don't feel like it needs to be a part of my life. I've gotten along perfectly fine without it so why should I start now? I have other devices that help to relax me, I don't need drugs for that.

Also I'd like to point out, I have yet to hear of a cop in the US(or at least in Minnesota) that has arrested someone for smoking weed. That's small fish, they really don't care if kids are smoking marijuana, the most they'll do is take any weed you have on you and smash your bowl, then let you walk away. Unless of course you have enough weed on you to be a potential big seller/grower... That's when you get jail time.