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Happiness Thread 1.0

Started by Mr Pwnage, February 20, 2012, 12:34:46 AM

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Mr Pwnage

HAPPINESS THREAD 1.0

Your definition of happiness? What makes you truly happy? What should a person need to be truly satisfied with their life? How much does material wealth influence a person's happiness? Love???


These are all questions I pose to you in a topic full of sunshine! Discuss!
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Torch

Happiness = endorphins released from brain. Caused by physical exertion, sexual activity, and gradually through healthy living.

To be "truly happy", all you need is a capsule of MDMA. You'll be happier than you could possibly ever imagine being.

T-Rok

Quote from: Torch on February 20, 2012, 10:58:41 AM
Happiness = endorphins released from brain. Caused by physical exertion, sexual activity, and gradually through healthy living.

To be "truly happy", all you need is a capsule of MDMA. You'll be happier than you could possibly ever imagine being.

You forgot cuddling teddy bears. Cuddling a teddy bear releases the same amount of endorphins has having sex. At least that's what Uncle John's Bathroom Reader tells me. And we all know his word is law.

Mystery

#3
In order of questions asked:

1. Happiness, like Torch said, is literally nothing more than the chemical consequence of having certain endorphins released from your brain, with some physical reactions to go with it.

2. Nothing that humanity seems to be up to accomplishing as a whole. Certainly it's done everything it can to do the exact opposite.

3. It depends on the person themselves and what they're willing to be satisfied with. I do know that the form of materialism embraced by most modern societies right now can be very detrimental to the well-being of the person and has no effect overall on happiness when compared to those who are less fortunate.

This being said, I would give up my position in life in a heartbeat to someone who was struggling, as right now, I can't make anything of it and all I seem to be proficient at is bearing pain.

4. As aforementioned, it does not overall.

5. Love is the same thing as happiness, except with different endorphins and with a different set of physical accompaniments, and the fact that it is much more fickle than even one of the most fickle emotions itself(happiness). I would be willing to bet over 50% of people(being generous) don't have a good grasp on this emotion and think they're in love when they're really not.

I personally feel it's the single stupidest emotion humanity is equipped with.

EDIT: 1.0 is heavily implying you're going to make another one of these in the future. Or did you just post this as a seeming contrast to the recent topics that are being discussed?

EDIT #2: I also feel having money being included in the picture of 'happiness' in the OP was, to put it lightly, not a wise decision.
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Quote from: Mystery on February 20, 2012, 01:06:27 PM
1. Happiness, like Torch said, is literally nothing more than the chemical consequence of having certain endorphins released from your brain, with some physical reactions to go with it.
We can branch that out into two directions (or more). We know many people share the same things that makes them happy. Like winning a millions dollars. But we know there are some things where people are more picky about that can make them not happy and some people happy. In other words what are the requirements to get those chemical reactions. Saying happiness is just a chemical reaction is not wrong, but just a part of the picture.

Also we can look at it from the after effect. As in why does that chemical reaction effect us the way it does. There are many levels to everything.

Lingus

Quote from: Torch on February 20, 2012, 10:58:41 AM
Happiness = endorphins released from brain. Caused by physical exertion, sexual activity, and gradually through healthy living.

To be "truly happy", all you need is a capsule of MDMA. You'll be happier than you could possibly ever imagine being.
For a short period of time. Of course, after a certain amount of usage, you will phyiscally no longer be able to feel happiness at all.

Quote from: Mystery on February 20, 2012, 01:06:27 PM
5. Love is the same thing as happiness, except with different endorphins and with a different set of physical accompaniments, and the fact that it is much more fickle than even one of the most fickle emotions itself(happiness). I would be willing to bet over 50% of people(being generous) don't have a good grasp on this emotion and think they're in love when they're really not.
Actually, I would argue that Love and Happiness are not necessarily one in the same. You don't have to be happy to be in love. In fact, there are plenty of times when being in love can make you quite unhappy. I believe you may be referring to infatuation. That definitely corresponds with similar endorphins and physical reactions as happiness.

Not to sound too condescending here, but I think that until you reach a certain maturity level when it comes to relationships, it's hard to see past that. It's hard to understand that you can be with someone and love them even though everything is not sunshine and butterflies. You go on with life as is, you do nice things for eachother, you care about eachother, you fight with eachother, and occasionally there's sunshine and butterflies.

To answer the original question. I think happiness is a combination of things. Being satisfied with your life, what you're doing. Being surrounded by people you love and who love you back. Having enough money, but not too much. Being challenged and excited about things.

ARTgames

I think of things that make you happy can rang from vary minimal to a lot. I also think happy is a survival tool but not a prefect one, and that every one does something to achieve more happy for themselves. But the reasons why an effect on a person/a person effect to the world might make them happy is complex and different from person to person.

Mystery

Quote from: Lingus on February 20, 2012, 02:06:28 PM
Actually, I would argue that Love and Happiness are not necessarily one in the same. You don't have to be happy to be in love. In fact, there are plenty of times when being in love can make you quite unhappy. I believe you may be referring to infatuation. That definitely corresponds with similar endorphins and physical reactions as happiness.
I was trying to point out that all things like love, happiness and sadness are just emotions at their core. I wasn't trying to say that love and happiness were similar emotions.

Quote from: Lingus on February 20, 2012, 02:06:28 PM
Not to sound too condescending here, but I think that until you reach a certain maturity level when it comes to relationships, it's hard to see past that. It's hard to understand that you can be with someone and love them even though everything is not sunshine and butterflies. You go on with life as is, you do nice things for eachother, you care about eachother, you fight with eachother, and occasionally there's sunshine and butterflies.
That's implying I actually care about having relationships. I think they're laughable.

I know relationships aren't all 'sunshine and butterflies'. Nothing is. But tell me, what's the primary reason most relationships are formed? Common sense and mutual benefit? It's the feeling of love.

Which, again, is so ridiculously fickle it results in an enormous number of relationships being doomed to failure from the start.

Quote from: ARTgames on February 20, 2012, 02:03:33 PM
We can branch that out into two directions (or more). We know many people share the same things that makes them happy. Like winning a millions dollars. But we know there are some things where people are more picky about that can make them not happy and some people happy. In other words what are the requirements to get those chemical reactions. Saying happiness is just a chemical reaction is not wrong, but just a part of the picture.

Also we can look at it from the after effect. As in why does that chemical reaction effect us the way it does. There are many levels to everything.
They're affected by your environmental sensations which are encoded into your brain chemically, and by your already existing neural connections. All of which are physical and chemical.

Why does the chemical reaction affect you the way it does? Why does touching acid burn your hand?

They just happen to have those properties, which can produce an infinite number of related effects on the infinite theoretical number of human brain configurations.
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Quote from: Mystery on February 20, 2012, 03:31:31 PM
They're affected by your environmental sensations which are encoded into your brain chemically, and by your already existing neural connections. All of which are physical and chemical.

Why does the chemical reaction affect you the way it does? Why does touching acid burn your hand?

They just happen to have those properties, which can produce an infinite number of related effects on the infinite theoretical number of human brain configurations.
This is fine to say but it depends on how much you want to know and at what detail depending on how you interpret my question. If you some one who stands by physics this is fine. But very veg amount of information.

Not saying your wrong, just saying there is a lot that can be discussed if some one cares to.

P.S. That smiley face is creeping me out now.

Mystery

#9
Quote from: ARTgames on February 20, 2012, 03:50:21 PM
This is fine to say but it depends on how much you want to know and at what detail depending on how you interpret my question. If you some one who stands by physics this is fine. But very veg amount of information.

Not saying your wrong, just saying there is a lot that can be discussed if some one cares to.

P.S. That smiley face is creeping me out now.
Not getting what you're trying to say here. Could you please elaborate some more?

Are you talking about the smiley face in the OP or the smiley face in Pwnage's avatar? If it's the one in the OP, well, you get creeped out extremely easily. If it's Pwnage's avatar, that's somewhat understandable, seeing as it's the hidden figure from Wario Land 3[SPOILERS]which turns into the final boss, Rudy the Clown, after you collect all 5 Music Boxes. He's also the ONLY THING IN THE ENTIRE GAME which can give you a Game Over, and it's instant.[SPOILERS] It was disconcerting to look at as a kid.
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ARTgames

Both faces man. both! As for what i was saying I'm just saying theirs a lot to say about the subject for this topic.

Mystery

Quote from: ARTgames on February 20, 2012, 04:07:55 PM
Both faces man. both! As for what i was saying I'm just saying theirs a lot to say about the subject for this topic.
Oh, is that it? I agree, there is a lot to say about it.  :P
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Meiun

#12
Stick Online is really just a bunch of code being executed by your computer. All your characters are just a bunch of bytes stored on the server machine. Everything about it is really just a ton of little illusions of logic that have been fleshed out via code to create what we all know as the game. But many of you guys seem to enjoy it and recognize it as more than that none the less.

Just because one of the underlying causes of happiness is chemicals doesn't mean that's all it is (it's the effect/result of them that that is important). And just because it is caused by brain chemicals doesn't make the perceived effects of it any less real, special, or meaningful to the person experiencing it.

Yankyal

words like happiness, life, thought, emotions, all break down when you start thinking of them in terms of physics or chemistry. society is centered around deluding ourselves into thinking we are more than atoms.


that being said i think happiness is the song Pollywog In A Bog by the Bare Naked Ladies.
Isaiah 13:15-18
Exodus 21:15
Deuteronomy 17:12
Leviticus 20:10

ARTgames

Quote from: Yankyal on February 20, 2012, 07:51:21 PM
physics or chemistry
Physics is looked at as the bases of the sciences. And some may say mathematics is under that or is the language of Physics.

Quotewords like happiness, life, thought, emotions, all break down when you start thinking of them in terms of physics or chemistry. society is centered around deluding ourselves into thinking we are more than atoms.
I know what your saying. But take that for whatever it means and at some level we don't really know whats going on.

Speaking to anyone:
Regardless it just depends on what goals you have.