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Started by Torch, November 10, 2009, 09:29:12 PM

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Scotty

#105
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It was indeed a nuclear bomb in the form of a Submarine-launched ballistic missile.  The reason for the EMP wiping out everything is that a nuke emits an EM field at a large radius.  It was detonated in the upper atmosphere (where you see the detonation, clearly a nuclear detonation at that), which is cause for it not demolishing the capital.  Apparently though, it was enough to take out the ISS.  Just want to clarify that part.

And to also clarify, the reason for them moving to the top of the white house and lighting green flairs as per the broadcast was because they had sent in bombers to carpet bomb the city, assuming it had been demolished by the bomb (even though it wasn't).  So the Air Force aimed to clear out any remaining survivors and end the conflict assuming all was lost (even though it wasn't, hence the flairs).

The place wasn't blanketed by radiation because the detonation didn't hit land.  It was detonated too far up to puncture the atmosphere.  The EM field is strong enough to pierce through, and wipe out the eastern half of the US though... apparently.

I'm not saying much of it is accurate, because well... I don't know what it's like to encounter a nuclear attack, but I do know that it was a nuclear bomb that was fired at the capital.

ARTgames

#106
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your right scotty. it was a nuke they used as an emp.
QuotePrice initiates a nuclear missile launch with the intent to detonate it in the upper atmosphere as an EMP.
http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Contingency

but even if the air force sent out a broadcast arnt all the radios fryed? ( which is what i was trying to point out. But i was wrong about it being not a nuke.)


Scotty

Yeah... That's actually kinda funny.  I didn't even realize that until you brought it up!  Wouldn't surprise me all that much if they screwed that up considering how they were also inaccurate with the EMP shutting off the cross-hairs on all their ACOG scopes.  There's a red tritium line that runs across the top of the scope that is charged by daylight (similar to solar).  There is no electronics to it, so it shouldn't have disrupted the ACOG scopes.

As far as the radio, yeah, highly unlikely that thing is going to run with EM fields disrupting pretty much the entire radio wave spectrum.

ARTgames

#108
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As far as the radio, yeah, highly unlikely that thing is going to run with EM fields disrupting pretty much the entire radio wave spectrum.

Well i did not think about that either. I was just thinking about the radio its self. But your right the "EM fields disrupting pretty much the entire radio wave spectrum."

Edit:
when i was looking up what scotty said i saw that the "third time" did go back in time. So i was wrong there also. That was 3 nuke moments not continue the lonch of it. So Zero Punctuation was right there also.

Jake

#109
Quote from: ARTgames on November 30, 2009, 07:00:10 PM
First off I'm disagreeing with you on the point that "leaves out some very important factors in a games score". He states in his video that he did not play online so i think its fair to take what he said about everting else.

Also are you saying there no exaggerated or over simplified in this video? Does he not make fun of the game once as satire? I would like for you to pull a quite that has non of those two things.


Ill leave the 2ed part out. I see its unclear.
You still haven't clearly pointed out why exactly you disagree with me. If you don't play through all the game modes in a game, you can't really give a true opinion on how good the game is. You can however still give good opinions about the game modes that you did play. I kind of understand what you're saying, but I don't really see how it ties into my statement, sorry. If I said "You can't take anything he says seriously because he didn't play all the game modes...", then your reply would make much more sense.

ARTgames

#110
Well it does not and that's my bad. Sorry. I was trying to respond to that "What part do you disagree with" and did a really bad job. I tried to played it off by saying i disagreed with you as you can see. I was digging a hole and ill stop here. I was wrong about what you said. But scotty said what i really wanted to. So im happy for that.

Aqua

***SPOILER ALERT***
I'm wondering if the Nuke-EMP is related to Shepard's actions (not even going to say them), or if it's Al-Asad's nuke from MW1 that caused Shepard's actions.
~Aqua

Mr Pwnage

On a complete different note...I just learned something today...If your opponent uses a nuke, while it is counting down you can use and EMP and stop the nuke. Just in case you all didn't know :)
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -Albert Einstein (1947)

http://www.benmward.com/projects.php

Jake

Quote from: Aqua on November 30, 2009, 10:29:28 PM
***SPOILER ALERT***
I'm wondering if the Nuke-EMP is related to Shepard's actions (not even going to say them), or if it's Al-Asad's nuke from MW1 that caused Shepard's actions.
~Aqua
Ermm, MW2 had a storyline? Damn, I should have payed more attention. I thought they basically just wanted me to kill a lot of !@#$ing people for no reason.

ARTgames

Quote from: Torch on November 12, 2009, 11:45:02 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on November 12, 2009, 09:48:42 PM
Quote from: Torch on November 12, 2009, 09:35:35 PM
Dedicated servers and mod support hinder IW's ability to sell their DLC to PC gamers.

how?

The worst thing they can do is make a mod map close to there map. But in no way i can see how dedicated servers hinder there ability to sell the game maps other than sponsor them like they did in the past.

I really think they did this for the reasons Lingus said.
If people are able to make and play their own maps for free, why buy the maps that IW makes? As well, mods usually add more than just a new map, some even change the game completely. The avid PC gamer wouldn't buy the DLC. Also, dedicated servers allow people with pirated copies to avoid playing through IWnet.

ok so i will say i do agree. I will say i see both sides now.

So i what to ask you do you think taking those things away from the game will make them more money from the pc? Just asking your opinion.

Aqua

Quote from: Jake on November 30, 2009, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: Aqua on November 30, 2009, 10:29:28 PM
***SPOILER ALERT***
I'm wondering if the Nuke-EMP is related to Shepard's actions (not even going to say them), or if it's Al-Asad's nuke from MW1 that caused Shepard's actions.
~Aqua
Ermm, MW2 had a storyline? Damn, I should have payed more attention. I thought they basically just wanted me to kill a lot of !@#$ing people for no reason.
I didn't find that funny. But yes, either play with high volume or subtitles. It's the most epic story yet, and has an 'over obvious cliffhanger' for continuation. I just hope that IW continues it, not friggin' TreyArc (sp?)
~Aqua

ARTgames

Quote from: Aqua on November 30, 2009, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: Jake on November 30, 2009, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: Aqua on November 30, 2009, 10:29:28 PM
***SPOILER ALERT***
I'm wondering if the Nuke-EMP is related to Shepard's actions (not even going to say them), or if it's Al-Asad's nuke from MW1 that caused Shepard's actions.
~Aqua
Ermm, MW2 had a storyline? Damn, I should have payed more attention. I thought they basically just wanted me to kill a lot of !@#$ing people for no reason.
I didn't find that funny. But yes, either play with high volume or subtitles. It's the most epic story yet, and has an 'over obvious cliffhanger' for continuation. I just hope that IW continues it, not friggin' TreyArc (sp?)
~Aqua

I'm going to need to replay the story. The first time i did feel really lost and i was trying hard to pay attention to it.

Did any one else feel the same or was that just me?

stick d00d

I had a bit of trouble following the story of MW1, because it switched between different characters. I think i might replay it as well.

Jake

#118
Quote from: ARTgames on November 30, 2009, 11:13:44 PM
Quote from: Aqua on November 30, 2009, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: Jake on November 30, 2009, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: Aqua on November 30, 2009, 10:29:28 PM
***SPOILER ALERT***
I'm wondering if the Nuke-EMP is related to Shepard's actions (not even going to say them), or if it's Al-Asad's nuke from MW1 that caused Shepard's actions.
~Aqua
Ermm, MW2 had a storyline? Damn, I should have payed more attention. I thought they basically just wanted me to kill a lot of !@#$ing people for no reason.
I didn't find that funny. But yes, either play with high volume or subtitles. It's the most epic story yet, and has an 'over obvious cliffhanger' for continuation. I just hope that IW continues it, not friggin' TreyArc (sp?)
~Aqua

I'm going to need to replay the story. The first time i did feel really lost and i was trying hard to pay attention to it.

Did any one else feel the same or was that just me?
I felt the exact same way.

Quote from: Aqua on November 30, 2009, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: Jake on November 30, 2009, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: Aqua on November 30, 2009, 10:29:28 PM
***SPOILER ALERT***
I'm wondering if the Nuke-EMP is related to Shepard's actions (not even going to say them), or if it's Al-Asad's nuke from MW1 that caused Shepard's actions.
~Aqua
Ermm, MW2 had a storyline? Damn, I should have payed more attention. I thought they basically just wanted me to kill a lot of !@#$ing people for no reason.
I didn't find that funny. But yes, either play with high volume or subtitles. It's the most epic story yet, and has an 'over obvious cliffhanger' for continuation. I just hope that IW continues it, not friggin' TreyArc (sp?)
~Aqua
Haha! I'm glad you pointed out that it wasn't funny. I'll try harder next time.

Torch

Quote from: ARTgames on November 30, 2009, 10:46:36 PM
Quote from: Torch on November 12, 2009, 11:45:02 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on November 12, 2009, 09:48:42 PM
Quote from: Torch on November 12, 2009, 09:35:35 PM
Dedicated servers and mod support hinder IW's ability to sell their DLC to PC gamers.

how?

The worst thing they can do is make a mod map close to there map. But in no way i can see how dedicated servers hinder there ability to sell the game maps other than sponsor them like they did in the past.

I really think they did this for the reasons Lingus said.
If people are able to make and play their own maps for free, why buy the maps that IW makes? As well, mods usually add more than just a new map, some even change the game completely. The avid PC gamer wouldn't buy the DLC. Also, dedicated servers allow people with pirated copies to avoid playing through IWnet.

ok so i will say i do agree. I will say i see both sides now.

So i what to ask you do you think taking those things away from the game will make them more money from the pc? Just asking your opinion.
Haven't got a clue. It all comes down to if getting people to buy their DLC is worth the sales that they've lost with the removal of dedicated servers. It seems like they think it is. Doesn't bother me though, I'm a console gamer.