For shame, Ubisoft.

[Scotty]

Careful art, chris and Jake might get a little livid at that thought, not that I am disagreeing.  The biggest problem with torrent websites is that they post up things saying "we cannot be held responsible..." yet we know they don't give more of a shit than chaos.  You can't pin torrent sites so long as they properly cover their ass, but you can bust webservers for hosting illegal material, as opposed to facilitating the downloading of (potentially illegal) material.

[ARTgames]

Careful art, chris and Jake might get a little livid at that thought, not that I am disagreeing

yeah. that's kind of why i brought it up. :P

[Scotty]

So I am not the only one who was out for blood today!

[Jake]

I myself stated that cloud gaming is a fix for piracy earlier in this topic. I don't mind the service at all, but it's not for me. I can definitely see companies latching on to something like OnLive.

[Chaos]

I consider OnLive a replacement for game rentals, not game purchasing.

As for what Scott was saying about ISPs watching this stuff, to my understanding, it's not even that.  The way I understand it is that a particular company will hire a "anti-piracy" company to watch this stuff.  What they'll do is go on a particular torrent site, and download the torrent, and pretty much discover the people who are seeding it.  They will pretty much warn you, and pressure your ISP to drop you if you continue to do it.

[Scotty]

Not necessary chris, there are actually false torrents out there that have you the minute you add them to your bittorrent.  They don't need to scan seeders or leechers, they'll just log everyone whodownloads their torrent.

@ Jake, I guess I just assumed you were taking a stand like chris against cloud gaming.

P.s. I am now drunk for the first time all week (wait, is that a record? I think so!), so forgive the iPhone typos.

[Chaos]

I don't like cloud gaming cause I like to actually own my property.

[Scotty]

And I like to actually keep the hookers that I pay good money for, but that isn't how that works now is it? What's your point?

[Chaos]

And I like to actually keep the hookers that I pay good money for, but that isn't how that works now is it? What's your point?

That you're a sucker.  ;)

[DarkBlade325]

Not necessary chris, there are actually false torrents out there that have you the minute you add them to your bittorrent.  They don't need to scan seeders or leechers, they'll just log everyone whodownloads their torrent.

@ Jake, I guess I just assumed you were taking a stand like chris against cloud gaming.

P.s. I am now drunk for the first time all week (wait, is that a record? I think so!), so forgive the iPhone typos.

Most YARR pirates I know use private websites with private trackers and such. Only way to get into those websites is to be invited by another member. If you use those kinda websites, then false torrents are very rare.

[Lingus]

I have 2 things I have to say about the people saying to just buy it and then crack it if you don't like the DRM.

1. By buying the game you are sending a message to the developer that what they have done is okay, and they will be more likely to continue doing it.

2. They are selling the PC version for $60!!!!! That is completely unacceptable and I will absolutely NOT buy it until the price goes down AND they have a sale on steam that brings it below $40-45.

By doing this they have now done 2 things that would cause people to be more likely to pirate. I have always said that making games MORE affordable will make people less likely to pirate. So by making it more expensive will clearly do the opposite. I don't even care what their reasoning behind this was. The end effect will be that more people will be less able to purchase the game. Ultimately, they will be losing revenue rather than recapturing lost revenue due to pirating. It's counterintuitive.

So, my earlier comment about buying Assassin's Creed 2 really should have been, I will eventually buy Assassin's Creed 2. I will not pirate it. But I will also not spend full retail price on it.

[ARTgames]

I have 2 things I have to say about the people saying to just buy it and then crack it if you don't like the DRM.

i agree, iv said that my self in this topic.

1. By buying the game you are sending a message to the developer that what they have done is okay, and they will be more likely to continue doing it.

i agree.

2. They are selling the PC version for $60!!!!! That is completely unacceptable and I will absolutely NOT buy it until the price goes down AND they have a sale on steam that brings it below $40-45.

I agree but i dont ever see that happing. most games are only -$10 less than 360 and there starting to be less. Good thing Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is only $45 at amazon.

[Lingus]

2. They are selling the PC version for $60!!!!! That is completely unacceptable and I will absolutely NOT buy it until the price goes down AND they have a sale on steam that brings it below $40-45.

I agree but i dont ever see that happing. most games are only -$10 less than 360 and there starting to be less. Good thing Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is only $45 at amazon.

It will. I imagine by the next Steam holiday sale it will be pretty cheap. If not then, then I'll wait for the next holiday sale. I honestly don't care if I have to wait 2+ years. I'm not spending that god damn much on a video game.

[Seifer]

Not necessary chris, there are actually false torrents out there that have you the minute you add them to your bittorrent.  They don't need to scan seeders or leechers, they'll just log everyone whodownloads their torrent.

@ Jake, I guess I just assumed you were taking a stand like chris against cloud gaming.

P.s. I am now drunk for the first time all week (wait, is that a record? I think so!), so forgive the iPhone typos.

Most YARR pirates I know use private websites with private trackers and such. Only way to get into those websites is to be invited by another member. If you use those kinda websites, then false torrents are very rare.

I do my Pirating via Warez websites which post links to the files in the form of webhosting links such as Rapidshare, Megashare, Hotfile, etc etc. Yes, if you wan't to download at any real speed you need to spend the 10 bucks a month for a membership, but it's much more safe and alot alot quicker and reliable. The volume of people on these forums at any given time, and I visit numerous ones are usually close to 5000 people. At once. I would say that warez pirating such as this is becoming more and more popular.

[DarkBlade325]

Not necessary chris, there are actually false torrents out there that have you the minute you add them to your bittorrent.  They don't need to scan seeders or leechers, they'll just log everyone whodownloads their torrent.

@ Jake, I guess I just assumed you were taking a stand like chris against cloud gaming.

P.s. I am now drunk for the first time all week (wait, is that a record? I think so!), so forgive the iPhone typos.

Most YARR pirates I know use private websites with private trackers and such. Only way to get into those websites is to be invited by another member. If you use those kinda websites, then false torrents are very rare.

I do my Pirating via Warez websites which post links to the files in the form of webhosting links such as Rapidshare, Megashare, Hotfile, etc etc. Yes, if you wan't to download at any real speed you need to spend the 10 bucks a month for a membership, but it's much more safe and alot alot quicker and reliable. The volume of people on these forums at any given time, and I visit numerous ones are usually close to 5000 people. At once. I would say that warez pirating such as this is becoming more and more popular.

Yeah I personally am in a private torrent website myself thanks to a friend, though I'm not pirating much now days.