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Started by God-I-Suck, March 09, 2010, 12:46:36 PM

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Lingus

Quote from: Trogdor on March 09, 2010, 04:57:05 PMPersonally (i.e. feel free to disregard the following information), I would not use the hemorrhoid cream unless the pain becomes unbearable. Whatever your body is doing needs to be done, period. Inflaming the veins in and around the anal cavity is no exception. Many medical "treatments" are counterintuitive to the body's infinite knowledge of how to treat itself; knowledge that's been obtained, honed, and refined for millions of years. Suppressing the symptoms will not bring about a cure.
Right. Which is exactly what I keep telling all of the people who are trying to cure cancer. They just aren't buying it for some reason. But come on, I mean the body clearly knows why it is killing itself. It has to be for a good reason...

In otherwords, minus the sarcasm, sometimes things happen to your body because something is wrong. If you don't correct what is wrong, that thing will continue to happen. Sometimes these things don't correct themselves.

Trogdor

Quote from: Lingus on March 09, 2010, 05:32:23 PM
Right. Which is exactly what I keep telling all of the people who are trying to cure cancer. They just aren't buying it for some reason. But come on, I mean the body clearly knows why it is killing itself. It has to be for a good reason...
Sarcastic or not, your body does realize it's killing itself for the greater good, not only for cancer but for common ailments, such as fevers. What I'm getting from your cancer scenario is that it's not okay to let the body harm itself, but it's fine to undergo radiation treatment/chemotherapy and let someone else slowly kill you.

Quote from: Lingus on March 09, 2010, 05:32:23 PM
In otherwords, minus the sarcasm, sometimes things happen to your body because something is wrong.
These are the outward manifestations of the problem itself, alerting the mind that something is indeed wrong with the body, although the body was well aware of it fully before these physical signs appeared.

Quote from: Lingus on March 09, 2010, 05:32:23 PM
If you don't correct what is wrong, that thing will continue to happen.
You're right, it will continue to happen. However, a healthy human being properly equipped with the building blocks needed to combat a certain disease and plenty of rest will correct what is wrong.

Quote from: Lingus on March 09, 2010, 05:32:23 PM
Sometimes these things don't correct themselves.
Of course they correct themselves. The body doesn't simply give up if something is hard to combat. The problem here is the extent of how much the body can correct. Many people today are malnourished from the Standard American Diet, and as a result they are unable to help their body help themselves. This is where medicine comes in. You can eat whatever you want however you want whenever you want, and any bad side affects that arise can be easily "corrected" by doctors. Speaking of which, do you know what they call doctors who graduate at the bottom of their class in medical school? A doctor.

This is simply a matter of differentiating opinions. I'd rather listen to my body than someone else, while other people would rather go to a doctor for convenience, time, solace, etc. My body is my doctor, and since it has millions of years more experience than a medical practitioner, I tend to believe it knows what it's doing. I practice what I preach, and I can honestly say I've been sick one time out of three years. That's all the proof I need.
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Cactuscat222

Quote from: Lucifer@Cactus/DT
There is nothing wrong with posting your medical issues, whatever they may be, on a community forum. Advice from others who may have experienced it before (or know someone who has), or just support from the people you've come to think of as friends can make any situation easier to deal with. If you have no advice support to offer, then feel free not to post.

Funny you are saying this, considering half the time your posts are just slander and libel with minor hints of on-topicness. None the less, my point is with Chaos. Its just attention seeking to me... I offer my condolences, but I suggest looking for advice or comfort from people not behind their monitors.


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venuse

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i guess ill step up to the plate and give some advice since ive had hemorrhoids for years. first since they are usually caused by over exerting while taking dumps, usually do to constipation or diarrhea you may want to to alter your diet some if you do have constipation alot ,eat veggies high fiber cereals and fruit,and drink more water not soda water. also may try to learn to try not to force a dump if you are constipated, i practice yes this sounds dumb but breathing exercises to calm myself similar to meditation. there are also small studies that say that sitting toilets actually increase the chance of hemorrhoids, and that if you squat while pooping that it may relieve the semptoms or reduce the chance of inflamation. they even make squating toilet although i have no clue where.

there is also something ive noticed myself, although not really meant for kids to read but may prove useful, and that is long periods of arousal and/or masturbation can cause irritation and induce hemorrhoid inflammation. i believe that is do to the erectile muscles of the penis being so close to the intestinal walls and thus causes tension on the intestinal walls when you are aroused.

so to put it simple
1- eat healthier
2- exercise
3- dont force dumps, take it nice and easy
4- try squatting if you want when dumping
5- drink more water
6- dont spend all day choking your chicken

also for other remedies that might help but i have never tried or heard of until now
dietary supplements
wikipedia stuff
Butcher's Broom extract, or Ruscus aculeatus, contains ruscogenins that have anti-inflammatory and vasoconstrictor effects that help tighten and strengthen veins. Butcher's Broom has traditionally been used to treat venous problems including hemorrhoids and varicose veins
Horse-chestnut extract, or Aesculus hippocastanum, contains a saponin known as aescin, that has anti-inflammatory, anti-edema, and venotonic actions. Aescin improves tone in vein walls, thereby strengthening the support structure of the vein. Double blind studies have shown that supplementation with horse-chestnut helps relieve the pain and swelling associated with chronic venous insufficiency

hope this helps and i feel your pain brother. hopefully you never go through what i went through, one of my hemorrhoids ripped a few years back and it scarred the hell out of me because i was bleeding pretty badly :(

further more dont listen to the people saying dont use the hemorrhoid cream because that cream is made to provide lubrication to reduce irritation and it also has anti inflation med in it i believe, i could be wrong, thus reducing the chance that the hemorrhoid rips or gets further irritated. this isnt the common cold people where your temp increase to kill the virus, this is the inflammation of an internal blood vessel which has been weakened do to genetics or stress. would you tell a person with a weakened blood vessel in his brain dont take the meds that will reduce the chance of it rupturing, no you wouldnt. although this is in your intestines and not a big of threat, its still a good analogy.


Lucifer

Quote from: Cactuscat222 on March 09, 2010, 06:09:53 PM
Funny you are saying this, considering half the time your posts are just slander and libel with minor hints of on-topicness. None the less, my point is with Chaos. Its just attention seeking to me... I offer my condolences, but I suggest looking for advice or comfort from people not behind their monitors.
Funny? I was in no way trying to be serious or "sincere", I was only pointing your and DT's obvious ignorance pertaining to the point of the topic. Of course all he's looking for is attention, he only wants support. If something new and painful happens in your life, you look to those around you for comfort. I would take it as an honor that someone came to me if they were troubled, not shun them because their problems didn't seem very important to me. My point is, if you don't give a shit, then why bother posting?  I personally don't see why there should be a wall between sharing your lives with people over the screen and people in real life, there sure isn't one for me.

I have no idea why you would take that comment as some kind of personal insult, it wasn't intended as such.

Jake

Quote from: Trogdor on March 09, 2010, 06:06:38 PM
Quote from: Lingus on March 09, 2010, 05:32:23 PM
Right. Which is exactly what I keep telling all of the people who are trying to cure cancer. They just aren't buying it for some reason. But come on, I mean the body clearly knows why it is killing itself. It has to be for a good reason...
Sarcastic or not, your body does realize it's killing itself for the greater good, not only for cancer but for common ailments, such as fevers. What I'm getting from your cancer scenario is that it's not okay to let the body harm itself, but it's fine to undergo radiation treatment/chemotherapy and let someone else slowly kill you.
If cancer is left to be treated by the body, it will kill you. Radiation and chemotherapy, although damaging in the short term, have saved thousands of lives. If my mom had trusted in her body to cure herself, she'd be dead right now.

There's a reason why modern medicine has improved mortality rates throughout the years.

Cactuscat222

I understand, and I was being rash. But... the reason I have a "wall" between my personal friends and those beyond the monitor, is because usually I share a much deeper friendship with my 'real life' friends than those online - although I do have a couple exceptions, so I understand. Sorry, I apologize, I was being too forthcoming. Like I told Luci, I was just upset and felt awkward about having to read about another man's butthole and the problems with said butthole. I just have a problem with that word it seems. xP


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Trogdor

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Quote from: Jake on March 09, 2010, 07:10:05 PM
If cancer is left to be treated by the body, it will kill you.
Quote from: Trogdor on March 09, 2010, 06:06:38 PM
However, a healthy human being properly equipped with the building blocks needed to combat a certain disease and plenty of rest will correct what is wrong.

Does this mean there's a cure for cancer? We found the cause of cancer over a hundred years ago, so why hasn't a cure been developed? I'll tell you why: people don't want to radically change their diet and subsequently their lifestyle to avoid something that may never happen to them. They want a miracle pill that will cure cancer in the off-chance that they are diagnosed with it.

Quote from: Jake on March 09, 2010, 07:10:05 PM
There's a reason why modern medicine has improved mortality rates throughout the years.
As the human condition degenerates modern medicine must improve. I have never questioned modern medicine, I simply stated that the body is able to fight diseases on its own, provided it has the necessary materials. I cannot stress this enough. The average human cannot fight cancer because he/she is not properly equipped. Yes, it is as simple as it sounds.
If you give a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
If you light a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

Chaos

Quote from: Cactuscat222 on March 09, 2010, 07:22:55 PM
I understand, and I was being rash. But... the reason I have a "wall" between my personal friends and those beyond the monitor, is because usually I share a much deeper friendship with my 'real life' friends than those online - although I do have a couple exceptions, so I understand. Sorry, I apologize, I was being too forthcoming. Like I told Luci, I was just upset and felt awkward about having to read about another man's butthole and the problems with said butthole. I just have a problem with that word it seems. xP

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How about now? :3
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Don't you worry GIS, buttholes are my expertise. All you gotta do is let a frog kiss your asshole and you will turn into a princess. But try not to have incestuous relations with a mosquito while doing so because that shit never turns out well...trust me. BTW, the more times the frog kisses your rectum the larger your tits will be, I had a toad do a succulent maneuver on my ass about 30 times and now I'm rocking triple D cups. !@#$ YEAH.
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Quote from: Mr Pwnage on March 09, 2010, 11:47:59 PM
Don't you worry GIS, buttholes are my expertise. All you gotta do is let a frog kiss your asshole and you will turn into a princess. But try not to have incestuous relations with a mosquito while doing so because that shit never turns out well...trust me. BTW, the more times the frog kisses your rectum the larger your tits will be, I had a toad do a succulent maneuver on my ass about 30 times and now I'm rocking triple D cups. !@#$ YEAH.

I've corrupted him well.  Thanks another notch on the belt!  Who's next?

Lingus

Quote from: Trogdor on March 09, 2010, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: Jake on March 09, 2010, 07:10:05 PM
If cancer is left to be treated by the body, it will kill you.
Quote from: Trogdor on March 09, 2010, 06:06:38 PM
However, a healthy human being properly equipped with the building blocks needed to combat a certain disease and plenty of rest will correct what is wrong.

Does this mean there's a cure for cancer? We found the cause of cancer over a hundred years ago, so why hasn't a cure been developed? I'll tell you why: people don't want to radically change their diet and subsequently their lifestyle to avoid something that may never happen to them. They want a miracle pill that will cure cancer in the off-chance that they are diagnosed with it.

Quote from: Jake on March 09, 2010, 07:10:05 PM
There's a reason why modern medicine has improved mortality rates throughout the years.
As the human condition degenerates modern medicine must improve. I have never questioned modern medicine, I simply stated that the body is able to fight diseases on its own, provided it has the necessary materials. I cannot stress this enough. The average human cannot fight cancer because he/she is not properly equipped. Yes, it is as simple as it sounds.
At which point I will stop listening to you. I've seen those types of medical "ads" before and they reek of scam. Notice how they are trying to sell you a product? How they are trying to make money off of people's fears of cancer? How convenient that they have discovered the cause of cancer, and all it takes to prevent it 100% is a low low cost of $99.99! But wait!! There's more! You too can become a representative and sell our respirators to your friends and family, alienating yourself from them by pushing our crappy scam on them too! Join now to save money and lives!!

Sorry... I just don't buy it. There are things that happen to the body which cannot be prevented without intervention. Something, in fact, which you are not even disputing in your posts. You're just saying it differently than I am... and apparently using it to push your wares on this forum. But, you are saying that the body can heal itself from anything given the right tools. I agree, and sometimes those tools are medicine. Which, to be honest, is not even a remotely new or western concept. We've been using plants and what not for thousands of years...

So anyways, just get over it. Take some ibuprofen when your head hurts. Go to the doctor when you have a broken bone. Or don't, and die a slow painful death. Whichever works for you.

Trogdor

Quote from: Lingus on March 10, 2010, 12:39:38 AM
At which point I will stop listening to you. I've seen those types of medical "ads" before and they reek of scam. Notice how they are trying to sell you a product? How they are trying to make money off of people's fears of cancer? How convenient that they have discovered the cause of cancer, and all it takes to prevent it 100% is a low low cost of $99.99! But wait!! There's more! You too can become a representative and sell our respirators to your friends and family, alienating yourself from them by pushing our crappy scam on them too! Join now to save money and lives!!

Sorry... I just don't buy it. There are things that happen to the body which cannot be prevented without intervention. Something, in fact, which you are not even disputing in your posts. You're just saying it differently than I am... and apparently using it to push your wares on this forum. But, you are saying that the body can heal itself from anything given the right tools. I agree, and sometimes those tools are medicine. Which, to be honest, is not even a remotely new or western concept. We've been using plants and what not for thousands of years...

So anyways, just get over it. Take some ibuprofen when your head hurts. Go to the doctor when you have a broken bone. Or don't, and die a slow painful death. Whichever works for you.
I'm very sorry, that was a grave mistake on my part. That was probably one of the worst websites to cite. Believe you me I don't buy into those ads (ionizers or whatever they were trying to sell) any more than you do; I was trying to emphasize Dr. Otto Warburg's cancer research, and I should've gone with a wiki instead of just clicking on one of the websites near the top. I doubt you'll listen to me now that I've lost all credibility with you, so I'll simply speak to the topic at large.

Dr. Otto Warburg, a two time Nobel laureate, did some research pertaining to the prime cause of cancer. He found that malignant growth, tumor growth, and cancer cells mainly derive their energy from the non-oxidative breakdown of glucose, the key here being "non-oxidative". In healthy cells flushed with oxygen, the breakdown of pyruvate is the main building block to form the adenosine triphosphate (ATP) used to power cells.

The former almost relates to the Krebs cycle, where the cell must revert to a primordial way to obtain its energy. A by-product of such a cycle is the creation of acidic material (I'm pretty sure it's lactic, but I could be wrong). If the body starts to rely increasingly on this energy source, the body's pH will slowly lower to a slightly acidic environment (the human body being a pH of 7.0 - 7.2, this isn't by any means hard to achieve). It is this type of environment that cancer cells thrive in, as proved by Dr. Warburg. Going further in his studies, he simulated an environment where cells had ample oxygen, and found that it was physically impossible for cancer cells to thrive in the alkaline environment.

So now that we've established the difference between alkaline and acidic environments and their effects on cancer cells, we'll use that knowledge to go one step further. Some foods, such as cheeses and breads, acidify in the body during digestion. Other foods, such as seeds and vegetables, help to maintain an alkaline environment. Since roughly 99% of our bodies are made up of the liquids and foods we eat, it's not such a stretch to assume the foods we eat can have a large impact on our bodies (and its respective pH). By avoiding acidifying foods, one could go lengths to prevent cancer growth and development by removing the environment in which it functions the best.

P.S. Before you draw conclusions Lingus, you would do well to carefully read the rest of the post. Right after I stupidly quoted that site, I went on to bash the very people who buy into those silly ads:
Quote from: Trogdor on March 09, 2010, 07:30:47 PM
... people don't want to radically change their diet and subsequently their lifestyle to avoid something that may never happen to them. They want a miracle pill that will cure cancer in the off-chance that they are diagnosed with it.

On top of that, the main subject of all of my posts has been using the human body to treat itself, not having doctors or other third parties (including said ad) treat whatever ails me.
Quote from: TrogdorMany medical "treatments" are counterintuitive to the body's infinite knowledge of how to treat itself; knowledge that's been obtained, honed, and refined for millions of years.
Quote from: Trogdor
This is simply a matter of differentiating opinions. I'd rather listen to my body than someone else... My body is my doctor, and since it has millions of years more experience than a medical practitioner, I tend to believe it knows what it's doing.
Quote from: Trogdor
I have never questioned modern medicine, I simply stated that the body is able to fight diseases on its own, provided it has the necessary materials.
Quote from: Trogdor
However, a healthy human being properly equipped with the building blocks needed to combat a certain disease and plenty of rest will correct what is wrong.

I'll make sure to avoid cutting any corners with you from now on.
If you give a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
If you light a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

runeskap master117

i never read trogdors posts always too long